pro-hormones

[fightbackhxc21]

Hey guys, my brother and friend (both my lifting partners) are getting into PH's and are trying to persuade me to take them. When they ask me why I wont, I dont really have a good answer except that it cant be good for you. They research this crap on BB.com seriously all day. They say that some are so mild that side effects are non existant. So I guess give me some good stuff to throw back at them. They are looking at iFORCE BOLD?

[klosey]

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc21

Hey guys, my brother and friend (both my lifting partners) are getting into PH's and are trying to persuade me to take them. When they ask me why I wont, I dont really have a good answer except that it cant be good for you. They research this crap on BB.com seriously all day. They say that some are so mild that side effects are non existant. So I guess give me some good stuff to throw back at them. They are looking at iFORCE BOLD?

HERE you go bro

a pro-hormone becomes a steroid once ingested
because its methylated and a ring short of being a steroid the change in the body is more harmful than actually taking steroids!
Also because the body is having to convert it you get less gains.

so in short

Prohormone = steroid with more sides & less rewards

a side note for labels - 1, 4 Androstadiene-3, 17- Dione is a precursor so in essense its a legal steroid

[will-work4andro]

you don't take it because you don't need it...it won't make that much of a difference...train hard, eat right, and sleep tight....and klosey is correct...more negatives and less results

[klosey]

Another thing to think about is a pro wont touch pro-hormones but will steroids and even the harmful hgh so what does that say about pro-hormones

[fightbackhxc21]

well I told them that if its methylated it will cause harm to their liver and I guess this one isnt methylated. I have tried to argue with them lol.

[Ordo Ab Chao]

Originally Posted by klosey

a pro-hormone becomes a steroid once ingested
because its methylated and a ring short of being a steroid the change in the body is more harmful than actually taking steroids!
Also because the body is having to convert it you get less gains.

Isn't there a risk of converting some of it to other hormones in the body?

[fightbackhxc21]

yeah isnt that why people take a PCT and other stuff?

[Ordo Ab Chao]

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc21

yeah isnt that why people take a PCT and other stuff?

I believe the pct is mainly to maintain the gains made on your cycle by preventing the excess test from aromatizing into estrogen. But I believe pro hormones, when converted by the body into steroids, can also be converted into other chemicals that aren't desired.

Honestly, with all of the money you have to spend on PH's, cycle support and PCT, it doesn't make much sense to me. Why not just get real gear?

[fightbackhxc21]

well they're argument is that this PH is so mild that you dont even need a PCT. and that is has been show to have little to no side effect. They still wonder why i dont wanna take it and I just tell them that they can do without it. But they are like im tired of not being big blah blah blah when we havent even been working out for 2 consecutive years......

[Ordo Ab Chao]

Originally Posted by fightbackhxc21

well they're argument is that this PH is so mild that you dont even need a PCT. and that is has been show to have little to no side effect. They still wonder why i dont wanna take it and I just tell them that they can do without it. But they are like im tired of not being big blah blah blah when we havent even been working out for 2 consecutive years......

I don't agree at all. They can be very potent. Besides, I would not want to chance it. anyways, here's some PH info to mull over:
http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=760