Joe Wilson the guy that heckled Obama

RuSerious · #1 09-15-2009, 07:07 PM

ABC what is your take on this guy? He seems to feel very strongly about his politics, and who doesn't but even if he is right was this okay considering the circumstances?

I know this is a political discussion but let's keep it civil guys we are all brothers here.

bigironcross · #2 09-15-2009, 08:43 PM

I'll take the bait.

What Joe Wilson did was inappropriate? Yes, plain and simple.

What Kanye West did was inappropriate? Yes, plain and simple.

No wonder the town hall meetings are getting out of control.

Should we expect more from our politicians, entertainers, athletes and citizens? Yes, plain and simple.

Cannot an argument be made without it becoming personal?

Cannot an argument be made without using offensive language or gestures?

Spectre · #3 09-15-2009, 11:47 PM

The beauty of this country is that we have Freedom of Speech, yet there are better times than others to utilize that amendment. I dislike Barack Obama, and I strongly agree with Wilson on the subject, but I think it could have been done in a more professional manner. He went about it incorrectly.

RuSerious · #4 09-16-2009, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Spectre

The beauty of this country is that we have Freedom of Speech, yet there are better times than others to utilize that amendment. I dislike Barack Obama, and I strongly agree with Wilson on the subject, but I think it could have been done in a more professional manner. He went about it incorrectly.

That is pretty much where I sit. This guy isn't some average joe in a pub on main street he's a congressman and know when to keep his mouth shut. However, the guy did apologize and it was accepted by the administration we ought to move on especially the media that seems to want to lynch the guy for being a fool.

Could he have been a little drunk to have made that comment on primetime TV? Couple of glasses of liquid courage can make you take thoughts in your head and voice them.

Wizard24 · #5 09-16-2009, 02:06 PM

Yes, the man was dead wrong to interrupt a speech that the president was giving and accuse him of lying. Now I am no Obama supporter, however he does hold the office of president and that should always be respected regardless of one’s political beliefs. Joe Wilson should not have acted in this manner and should be admonished by Congress. Once this happens let’s all move on.

On top of this I feel that more and more there is a general lack of respect that is given to the office of the president (most notably W. Bush and Obama). An example of this manifested itself just the other week with Obama’s speech to school kids. You had schools allowing parents to opt their kids out of watching it and other schools flat out refused to air the speech. Again, I do not agree with Obama on most things, but I just feel that if the president wants to speak to you, you better shut up and listen.

Commander · #6 09-16-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizard24

On top of this I feel that more and more there is a general lack of respect that is given to the office of the president (most notably W. Bush and Obama). An example of this manifested itself just the other week with Obama’s speech to school kids. You had schools allowing parents to opt their kids out of watching it and other schools flat out refused to air the speech. Again, I do not agree with Obama on most things, but I just feel that if the president wants to speak to you, you better shut up and listen.

I agree that there is an unfortunate lack of respect given to the Office of the President. However, I am fine with schools refusing to air his speech and parents opting their kids out. Don't they have the freedom to chose not to watch it? I was personally fine with my son watching the speech, I trust him to listen to it and ask me questions if anything concerns him and I advised him to do just that; listen and ask questions.

However, if it would somehow become mandatory to watch/listen to the President, that would be frightening no matter who is holding the office. There is a huge difference between chosing not to listen to his speech and heckling him.

Commander · #7 09-18-2009, 02:40 PM

How's this for civility?
Representative Pete Stark

bigironcross · #8 09-18-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Commander

How's this for civility?
Representative Pete Stark

I believe that he should have made his argument without the personal attacks.

RuSerious · #9 09-18-2009, 06:09 PM

It seems we've lost our respect for others in general. We can't seem to fathom the idea that others have a differing opinion than ours so people choose to lash out rather than exercise civility. How bad will things be when our kids are our age if this keeps up at the same rate? Scary indeed.