Glute-Ham raise - knee pain

[Commander]

I previously posted about some knee pain here;
http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/forum...ad.php?t=89485

I wasn't sure of the cause, but I thought maybe I hyperextended it deadlifting (at the lockout). Now I have a different theory.

The reason for my new theory, I did glute-ham raises 2 days ago, and now my right knee feels similar to my left knee, crap!

I use this technique (but with my legs under a loaded bar):


I didn't use that much padding for my knees though, which could be the problem. Or maybe this technique would be easier on the knee somehow?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klZnA...eature=related

[will-work4andro]

i do it similar to how layne does it...but the way my lat pull is set up i have to do it on the smith machine...i put the bar at the appropriate level...load it up at 225 so it doesnt' move...then i do it to it. hasn't hurt my knee though...my recommendation would be...if it hurts you to stray from it.

[Commander]

I love them though...in a very sick way! I am going to combine methods after reading how you do it. I have a smith machine, so I will set up the bench as you mentioned with the loaded bar at the appropriate level, but I will also put a folded towel down to further help decrease any possible knee pain.

If I still get pain from them after that, I guess I will have to ditch them like you suggested. Any other feedback is still appreciated.

[klosey]

you may have to do the old bench ham curls laying or standing

[Commander]

Originally Posted by klosey

you may have to do the old bench ham curls laying or standing

Boring, ha, ha!

But, if it saves my knees you are right. I don't want to have knees 20 years older than the rest of my body!

[spider-man]

Normal....

Try doing accentuated negatives on a leg curl. The pain is the same. I was concerned about it when i first started feeling it, but it went away.

The pain is like in the center of the knee, like on the inside part, correct? Like it almost hurts the front of your knee when you do the curls right? if so, thats normal and it will go away.

I also do them in a smith machine...

[Commander]

Originally Posted by spider-man

Normal....

Try doing accentuated negatives on a leg curl. The pain is the same. I was concerned about it when i first started feeling it, but it went away.

The pain is like in the center of the knee, like on the inside part, correct? Like it almost hurts the front of your knee when you do the curls right? if so, thats normal and it will go away.

I also do them in a smith machine...

Check out the injury thread I linked to in the first post.
The pain doesn't occur during the exercise. It is at the bottom and kind of under the knee cap, what is really bothersome is that I literally can't flex my quad properly in full extension. My quad works during exercises, but if I am standing up, I can't flex it hard at all without knee pain.

[spider-man]

i know exactly what you meant, commander. Again, i had the same pain for a few weeks. It's because of the heavy negative training with that particular exercise..

It goes away...

[Commander]

I switched to the legs under smith machine with knees on bench version of glute-ham raise, like in the video. I did 10 sets of 4 last night, so far no knee pain. In fact, they feel pretty darn good, I could tell during the workout that it was a slightly different feel than before. Hopefully this means good things for my knee.