suppliments/protein

[MorThanAConqeror]

Right now the only suppliments/Protein I am taking is glutamine in the night,morning, pre and post workout. The Whey protein I take is after workout and will soon be taking casein protein at night. I am 15 and do not want to take something that might harm me down the road. But I am willing to do what is necessary to get more muscle growth Nothing that could be bad for me though. How much other suppliments if any do you think I should take.

[l0stsheep]

I think a multivitamin, for sure (maybe you just didn't mention it)

Then: Essential Amino Acids (EAA) are great along with BCAA's, especially leucine. Both of these are safe; they are just amino acids, the building blocks of protein.

You can try creatine, monohydrate is safe, but I am increasingly becoming weary of creatine since I haven't witnessed it being that beneficial. Other than that, I would stay away from products like NO-Xplode, (Stay away from Nitric Oxide). This doesn't necissarily have to due with just your age, I don't like the products altogether.

[misterjaydubyoo]

No benefits from creatine? I notice results almost immediately every time I begin a new loading phase.
I always look bigger (that of course is due to water retention) and I have more muscular endurance.

But, as with most things, everyone's body reacts differently...

[l0stsheep]

I knew I had to use my words carefully when writing that, and maybe I did not use them carefully enough.

Personally, I have found little to no effect from creatine. On that same note, I have not found very many other people who have had great effects from the supplement. In theory, it should work IF you naturally have a creatine deficit. The thing about that is, though, that the building blocks for creatine are found in meats and fish and many people who lift already get a lot of those foods, so supplementing with creatine will have little effect.

Not to question your progress, but I have just grown somewhat skeptical of creatine supplementation. I admit to not being the foremost scholar on the subject, but personal and observational anecdotes make me question its efficacy. For instance, if you know that creatine increases "muscle endurance" as you say, one might say that taking creatine has acted as a placebo for you and your mind; your mind knowing what creatine should do has kicked in to help your workouts. A double-blind study where normal lifters were either (a)given placebo and told creatine (b)creatine and told creatine and (c) nothing may lead to more information on the applied efficacy of creatine supplementation. (I might throw in a group that is given creatine and told its nothing at all, maybe some sort of multivitamin).

At any rate, I am somewhat skeptical of creatine supplementation and, at least for this thread, I don't think it's a place to start.

P.S. Awesome stats in your sig. Those are some good numbers, especially that 31" waist and 8% bf. Post some more around here, your experience will be really appreciated!

[misterjaydubyoo]

Thanks l0stsheep. I have always been really strong, and have won a few powerlifting competitions. I look to compete nationally on the bench press here soon, since it is climbing as of late.

I am now just getting serious about really putting on weight the right way, via smart eating (thanks to this website), and proportioning my body correctly, since I seem a little "top heavy" now. I just got done with a "mini" cut, and am trying to gain lean muscle now. I am sure my results won't be optimal due to funds and timing, yet after May (when I graduate) look out!!

The creatine may in fact be a placebo effect, or it may be that everytime I cycle it, it is after I have been on a gym layoff, or I increase my intensity. However, it just seems that I instantly gain endurance and a pump within that first week, so if it is in fact a placebo, it is a fairly cheap one!

[john06]

Protein Supplements – This product is generally in the whey protein form. The muscles normally need proteins, because it is the main building block of the muscles. You can usually get protein by consuming meat, eggs and other protein giving foods. Yet, whey proteins can be absorbed by the muscles faster and at a higher rate. This means that it will build up your muscles more and will support in giving extra muscle mass to make your muscles better.

[klosey]

stay away from creatine - its not really usefull if eating alot of red meat, and to be honest is most benificial to vegitarians. also stay away from and product which says
Massive muscle gain, steroid like results, better than steroids etc as these mostly are prohormones which cause more harm then steroids do. most products are ok but if in doubt ask [img]/forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[misterjaydubyoo]

well, if you are like me, a college boy, then your funds are limited....therefore i don't get the red meat in my diet like i want....don't get me wrong, steak is WONDERFUL, but maybe that's why i get good results from creatine