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01-14-2008, 04:23 PM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
I saw on a news program a nutritionist said you actually can get more nutrients out of vegitables by cooking them. have you heard of this? is this true?
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01-17-2008, 03:51 PM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
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Just had a lecture today about this! An great example is carotenoids. In whole foods such as carrots, they form crystaline structures which are very hard to digest. By cooking them, you are able to breakdown these structures some, making them much more readily absorbed. It was also suggested that you need to consume 5-10 grams of fat w/ your vitamins - this is necessary for bile acid secretion and optimal absorption in the small intestine. The instructor said that you only absorb about 1% of the carotenoids from raw carrots; with the methods above, you can increase this to 25%! He also said quality supplements like centrum are even more readily absorbed, which goes completely what society tells us! I think I have made 15 straight posts on studies which completely go against scientific dogma spread by society. I think for now on, if I want to do something that is optimal, I should just do the exact opposite of what our society says!
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01-18-2008, 03:05 PM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
Great post. I have been pondering this very question. In essence, a post workout shake might even be more effective if the denaturization has already been initiated. What do you think?
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01-18-2008, 05:41 PM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
Yes, and you can just have partially hydrolyzed proteins. Pro-score by champion example has a high amount of these.
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01-24-2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
its so awesome how much you can learn from one place. thanks for all the info
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02-22-2008, 08:21 PM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
This is good stuff.
What if you mix whey with water and drink it several hours later? Same effect?
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02-23-2008, 12:49 AM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
Yes, quite similar. But it won't denature that much.
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02-23-2008, 01:10 PM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
Cool. Thanks for the reply.
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02-25-2008, 04:30 PM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
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Yes, quite similar. But it won't denature that much. [/ QUOTE ] I guess it doesn't really matter if I mix up my midnight shake and keep it in the fridge, afterall, hey?
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02-25-2008, 05:18 PM
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Re: Dispelling the cooked protein myth - denaturing is irrelevent
I do that every night.
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