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10-19-2006, 03:54 AM
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Casein and ZMA at bedtime...
I am supposed to take ZMA 30 mins before bed but I am also supposed to have a casein shake(lots of calcium in it) before bed. Do I give one up? They do not seem to compliment each other but both are useful, I need direction.
Also, is mixing casein powder with milk redundant or does it make perfect sense(same protein source)? 
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10-19-2006, 06:59 AM
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Re: Casein and ZMA at bedtime...
Take the casein shake an hour or earlier before you go to bed, then take the ZMA right before you sleep. I'm not sure about hte timing, but you're def. going to want to distance the two by a fair margin, otherwise, you're going to have to cut one out.
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10-19-2006, 07:48 PM
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Re: Casein and ZMA at bedtime...
You're not getting the full effect of the ZMA if you're taking casein 45mins after your zma. If you don't mind wasting your $$, I guess that works.
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10-19-2006, 07:55 PM
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Re: Casein and ZMA at bedtime...
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You're not getting the full effect of the ZMA if you're taking casein 45mins after your zma. If you don't mind wasting your $$, I guess that works. [/ QUOTE ] How is that possible? Your ZMA is fully digested by then. I always like to have my shake before my ZMA, but on days where I was very busy and get home late or whatnot, I like to take my ZMA 1 hour before my shake.
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10-19-2006, 08:53 PM
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Re: Casein and ZMA at bedtime...
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I take my ZMA and then I take my caesin 45-60 minutes after the ZMA. I still get the crazy dreams, so I guess it works. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Increased B6: At least one preliminary study has found that this vitamin may increase dream vividness or the ability to recall dreams[2]. It is thought that this effect may be due to the role this vitamin plays in the conversion of tryptophan to serotonin[2]. [/ QUOTE ] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B6 The issue with calcium is the magnesium absorption (maybe zinc too?) but apparently the dreams might be a result of the extra b6. So if you're dreaming, it could be a sign that you're getting b6 but doesn't necessarily indicate absorption of the magnesium (which is key to ZMAs benefits).
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10-19-2006, 09:01 PM
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Re: Casein and ZMA at bedtime...
LOL @ EHOW.COM!!!
[ QUOTE ] How to Best Absorb Magnesium Supplements: ... STEP 2: Combine magnesium with calcium. The easiest way is to take a balanced formula of one part magnesium to two parts calcium. ... [/ QUOTE ] http://www.ehow.com/how_3954_absorb-...pplements.html My goodness.
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10-19-2006, 09:32 PM
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Re: Casein and ZMA at bedtime...
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How is that possible? Your ZMA is fully digested by then. I always like to have my shake before my ZMA, but on days where I was very busy and get home late or whatnot, I like to take my ZMA 1 hour before my shake. [/ QUOTE ]Digestion is not the same as absortion. ...and dash: lol @ that article. Hahahhaha.
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10-19-2006, 09:58 PM
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Re: Casein and ZMA at bedtime...
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LOL @ EHOW.COM!!! [ QUOTE ] How to Best Absorb Magnesium Supplements: ... STEP 2: Combine magnesium with calcium. The easiest way is to take a balanced formula of one part magnesium to two parts calcium. ... [/ QUOTE ] http://www.ehow.com/how_3954_absorb-...pplements.html My goodness. [/ QUOTE ] dude, this is not the first post abuot the magnesium and calcium thing. I have an idea but still am not 100% positive about how best to take these supplements.
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10-19-2006, 10:26 PM
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Re: Casein and ZMA at bedtime...
Dash was making a comment on how clueless those people are.
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