24 mass workout modifications

grafxalien · #1 03-22-2005, 10:58 AM

Im looking to start this plan next week, but there are two things i was wondering about. First, for the triceps it says to do dips. However, dips always cause my shoulders to get injured..so i was wondering what some good things would be to substitute for them. Also, i would say my shoulders are lagging the most..so would it be alright to add some more shoulder exercises to the routine? or should i just stick with what is listed?

l0stsheep · #2 03-22-2005, 11:01 AM

You can add exercises as you see fit.

I'm concerned that your shoulders hurt when you do triceps though.

How's isolating going?

grafxalien · #3 03-22-2005, 11:32 AM

yea..i was concerned with my shoulders too so i went to the Doc..she said it seemed to be fine and said i could continue lifting. For some reason dips seem to hurt them more than other things so i kind of want to stay away from them for a while. I was just kind of unsure what to add in their place..Skullcrushers? pulley pushdowns?

l0stsheep · #4 03-22-2005, 12:11 PM

Yeah you could...I enjoy both. Just try them to see which you like doing. We have an exercise tab at the top of ABC with

Slide Show exercises

and

Animated exercises

If you want to find some exercises to do.

The guy in the animatd exercises looks like me...haha riiiiight

Gizzo · #5 03-22-2005, 02:16 PM

Dips have always hurt my shoulders too, I guess it has something to do with my proportions. However when I do behind the back dips for some reason I feel a lot less strain in my shoulders. Some gyms have a dip machine where u sit and just push down with ur arms. Dips are great for mass, and so are close grip bench presses maybe u should try them.

BrothaMan325 · #6 03-22-2005, 02:28 PM

i dont see a problem with adding more shoulder, just make sure that you dont have them infront or behind a chest day. guys o worked out with for years have had the majority of shoulder injuries at this time. or, if you cant avoid it, go light, and stay in control. shoulder injuries are hard to come back from, as you probably know.

also for dip changes, pushups are cool. wide grip, close grip, anygrip. and alot of them. you can also skull crush with an incline bench supper set. i use that alot when i dotn feel like doing dips.

grafxalien · #7 03-23-2005, 11:45 AM

so would throwing in a few shoulder exercises on the leg day be good then? Since its 2 days after chest

B.A.M. · #8 03-23-2005, 02:05 PM

Wait until you do those ascending/descending dumbell shoulder presses and tell me you want/are able to do more shoulder work. If you truly feel it isn't enough, then I guess you could add some more in there though, but between incline bench presses, those dumbell presses, and the dropsets on the side laterals, they are going to get a heavy ([---]) beating and may need the full 5-7 days to recover.

Also, I had a similar probably as you with the dips, but when I do behind the back dips, it doesn't bother me at all, and plus I feel that behind the back dips really are a perfect way to end up that workout. If you have too though, I guess you could add some other heavy mass building tricep exercise as a replacement.

grafxalien · #9 03-23-2005, 06:51 PM

the behind the back dips sound like a good idea, they usualy dont hurt my shoulders either. However, since i dont have a lifting partner, adding plates to my lap was a pain when i did those before. Anyone have suggestions on an easy way to do that?