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Old 01-08-2005, 09:56 AM
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I thought 3500 calories=1 pound?
<font color="red">3500 calories is 1 lb of fat </font>

So if I gained 1 1/2 pound a week on a clean bulk, the extra 1/2 pound would most likely be fat?
<font color="red">Again, impossible to say. </font>

And what do they say about "newb gains"? How would a newb gain more muscle at first?
<font color="red">In actuality newb gains are mostly neuro-muscular adaptations rather than gains in lbm. This is why someone who has never trained gains strength very quickly. </font>


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So 2500 calories=1 lb of muscle, and 3500 calories= 1 pound of fat?

And so the best thing for me to do would to just plan my calories out so I'm gaining 1 lb a week?
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So 2500 calories=1 lb of muscle, and 3500 calories= 1 pound of fat?

And so the best thing for me to do would to just plan my calories out so I'm gaining 1 lb a week?

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Find out what your maintenance calories are and add to it until you are gaining a pound a week.
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So 2500 calories=1 lb of muscle, and 3500 calories= 1 pound of fat?

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2.5 lbs per week of solid muscle is not humanly possible

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Well, I don't really know what to say to that. [img]/forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

I'm very consistant and objective in my measurements, I don't look like I've gained 6.5 lbs of pure fat, and I've checked myself on two different scales.

I guess I'll just shut up and keep gaining weight! [img]/forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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So 2500 calories=1 lb of muscle, and 3500 calories= 1 pound of fat?

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[img]/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] says who? [img]/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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That's what I thought? [img]/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

What is it really then?
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So 2500 calories=1 lb of muscle, and 3500 calories= 1 pound of fat?

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[img]/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] says who? [img]/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

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That's what I thought? [img]/forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

What is it really then?

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1 lb of fat = 3500 calories.
Do a search or a google.
At 9 cals per gram and 454 grams per pound it comes ou to over 4000 however you have to take into account that fat is 10% water and the fact that some will be passed and not absorded. The common figure is 3500 calories per pound of fat.

As for the 2500 calories per pound of muscle. I am not sure where I got this figure from but I have read it at more than one source. Again you can try doing a google.
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Yeah, I'm fairly sure I've seen that in a couple places as well, but it doesn't mean I believe it. (Not taking anything away from you Coz) I'm not going to google it, but I will pick through some scientific journals, as far as I'm concerned, 3500 equals a pound of anything...
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Yeah, I'm fairly sure I've seen that in a couple places as well, but it doesn't mean I believe it. (Not taking anything away from you Coz) I'm not going to google it, but I will pick through some scientific journals, as far as I'm concerned, 3500 equals a pound of anything...

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Yes I have heard that as well but then I think how can 3500 calories per pound be the same for fat and muscle? Not possible. The calculations for fat work out.

Oh well, I just used 2500 to make my example of how gaining 2.5 lbs of muscle per week is not humanly possible. Whether it is 2500 or 3500 my point stands. [img]/forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Ive gained 12.5 lbs of LBM in the Month of December while losing 3.6 % of BF. How I think I did this water, very clean bulking and workout my as@ of in the gym. Maybe it isnt possible but about 80% of the bulkiers in the Hyperplasia changellage including me have dont it
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