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Old 12-09-2003, 02:15 PM
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Hi, one of my girl friends wants to get in shape. She is 5'2...110lbs i think...I think she wants to loose a little fat but she dosnt have much...and she would like to tone her body. She dosnt want to get into bodybuilding for competition, jsute have a nice body I guess.
Im not too familiar with women bodybuilding...i mean, i try to eat 3000calories to gain weight...she wants to would it work for her..
How many calories ?
Proteins, carbohydrate, fats ?
For fab much cardio ? and how much lifting....
i think its better for women to do more reps ? for lean muscles or something..not too sure...
anyways...anything about da ladys would help.

thanks a bunch
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Old 12-09-2003, 02:20 PM
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Train her like a man, man.
Old 12-09-2003, 02:21 PM
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is she new to lifting?

if she wants to lose fat i suggest that she read the 13 week fat burning articles (diet and workout).

how does she eat now?

there is no difference in the way men and women train.


1. Eat every 2-3 hours, balanced meals of protein, carbs, fat. Exception: you don't necesarily have to eat carbs for your last meal or two of the day, you CAN just eat protein and fat. Unless it's post workout, then you NEED to eat some carbs.

2. Try to keep the protein intake in each of your meals consistent. Eat a minimum of your bodyweight in grams of protein, divided up equally into each of your meals.

3. Don't be afraid of fat, you NEED fat in order to BURN fat. You need to turn your body into a fat burning machine. In order to do this, you keep your carbs fairly low and your fat intake moderate. As in, the lower your carbs, the more fat you should be consuming.

4. Avoid sugars like the plague. Read your labels, avoid food with sugar listed in the ingredients.

5. Avoid processed foods, like those in boxes/packages and also anything made with white flour. White flour is overprocessed. Also anything that says, "enriched" avoid it as well.

6. Eat as close to nature as you can. In other words, the closer the food to how it occurs in nature, the better for you it is, and ESPECIALLY for fat burning.

7. Avoid starchy carbs like corn, bread, pasta.

8. For your last meal or two of the day, have only green veggies for your carbohydrates.

9. Last but not least, do NOT cut your calories too low. For starters I wouldn't even drop ANY calories. I would eat maintenance calories and just focus on cleaning up your diet and getting consistent with a good macronutrient ratio (protein, carbs, fat). Examples of good cutting ratios are: 40P/30C/30F, 40P/25C/35F, or 40P/20C/40F (of course there ARE others, those are just MY personal preferences).

10. A good website (free) to help you keep track of your calories, protein, carbs, and fat is:

Here are some good choices for foods to eat, conducive to burning fat and/or staying lean. If the food you are eating is not on this list, I would question it.


Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breast
Tuna (water packed)
Fish (salmon, seabass, halibut)
Extra Lean Ground Beef or Ground Round (92-96%)
Protein Powder
Egg Whites or Whole Eggs
Ribeye Steaks or Roast
Top Round Steaks or Roast (aka Stew Meat, London Broil, Stir Fry)
Top Sirloin (aka Sirloin Top Butt)
Beef Tenderloin (aka Filet, Filet Mignon)
Top Loin (NY Strip Steak)
Flank Steak (Sir Fry, Fajita)
Eye of Round (Cube Meat, Stew Meat, Bottom Round , 96% LeandGround Round)
Ground turkey, Turkey Breast Slices or cutlets (fresh meat, not deli cuts)
Soy Burgers
Low-fat cottage cheese


Oatmeal (Old Fashioned or Quick Oats)
Sweet Potatoes (Yams)
Beans (pinto, black, kidney)
Oat Bran Cereal
Rye Cereal
Brown Rice
Farina (Cream of Wheat)
Multigrain Hot Cereal
Whole wheat or Spinach Pasta
100% Stoneground Whole Wheat Bread


Green Leafy Lettuce (Green Leaf, Red, Leaf, Romaine)
String Beans
Bell Peppers
Brussel Sprouts
Green or Red Pepper


Lemons or Limes


Natural Peanut Butter
Olive Oil or Safflower Oil
Nuts (peanuts, almonds)
Flaxseed Oil


Crystal Light
Green Tea
Other Tea (without sugar)
Coffee (without sugar)


Reduced Sodium Soy Sauce
Reduced Sodium Teriyaki Sauce
Balsamic Vinegar
Hot Peppers and Hot Sauce
Chili powder
Mrs. Dash
Steak Sauce
Sugar Free Maple Syrup
Chili Paste
Extracts (vanilla, almond, etc )
Low Sodium beef or chicken broth
Plain or reduced sodium tomatoes sauce, puree, paste)
Stevia (natural sweetener)


1. Always start with big muscle groups first. Always do chest before triceps and shoulders, always do back before biceps.

2. Work each bodypart once per week with the exception of abs and calves, you can work them 2-3 times per week if you'd like.

3. For big muscle groups, generally do 3-4 exercises per part, 3-4 sets per exercise.

4. For smaller muscle groups, do 2-3 exercises per part, 2-3 sets per exercise.

5. Work each muscle group to failure on each set with the exception of warm-up sets. Pick a weight where you cannot physically lift it more than 12 reps. Lift the weight til you can't lift it anymore (for 12 reps or less).

6. Take 1-3 minutes rest between each set of 6-12 reps.

7. Make up your training split based on how many days per week you can go to the gym and how long you want to spend there. Personally, I wouldn't try to do more than 2 bodyparts per session if you can help it. Reason is cause it's very difficult to maintain your intensity for more than two bodyparts. If you are really giving it all you got, you'll find it quite difficult to still have the energy to train that third bodypart.

8. Never do cardio before lifting weights, ALWAYS do cardio AFTER weight training and PREFERABLY on a separate day altogether.

9. Don't overdo it on the cardio, cardio is WAY overrated in terms of burning fat. DIET and weight training (muscle) is what's gonna burn the fat for you. For starters, I'd only do cardio twice a week for no more than 30 min and I recommend high intensity interval training if you're up to it. H.I.I.T. is explained in the "workouts" section I believe, blue tab at top.

NOTE: If you are a total beginner and have not mastered the proper lifting techniques/forms yet, I would NOT advise starting with heavy weights but rather a weight you can lift in the 12-15 rep range until you have mastered the proper form, to avoid injury.

For different weight training exercises to do, see the blue tab at the top of the page labeled "exercises". Each exercise has its own description along with an animated illustration to show you how to perform the exercise properly.


Monday - back & abs
Tuesday - chest & shoulders
Wednesday - cardio
Thursday - legs, calves
Friday - arms
Saturday - off
Sunday - cardio

DISCLAIMER: Please take note that these guidelines are intended for BEGINNERS ONLY, those who are totally NEW at lifting and proper nutrition. This is intended just to be able to get them STARTED without overwhelming them with too much information all at once. And this was posted at the request of some members.

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Old 12-09-2003, 02:53 PM
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I think at 110 lbs she probably doesn't have room to lose too much. She should probably bulk clean to gain some muscle. She'll get her toned look that way.
Old 12-09-2003, 03:55 PM
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Wow, thanks soccerchick for the "to the point" quote!! I've been wondering where I personally stood and if I'm on track. I really needed to read some of that info again [img]/forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] So, thanks a bunch!!
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Old 12-09-2003, 07:50 PM
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Thanks a bunch guys....soccerchix this is gonna help her alot....ill get her reading that presto :P
and ill make her a lifting you guys said..its the same as wont be too hard.

Thanks alot again
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