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Old 03-12-2003, 02:13 PM
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I am interested in what kind of carbs are you eating? I may go in the direction you are in. So far, I have accomplished kicking the junk food ........! I feel much better. Then, eating every 2.5- 3 hours (hungry!) I'm on Fit Day-thats good. So what kind of carbs and when do you eat them? I'm starving right before bed, I'm drinking a protein (almost no carb). What do you think? I'm eating clean and lifing to grow! On the 24 workout mass blitz-wk 2!! Cardio 2 days a week, my own verison of HITT.
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Old 03-12-2003, 02:24 PM
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afolov said:
Just by looking at your yesterday's entry:
Calories eaten: 1691
Calories burned: 2603

I see a big problem there.

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Oops! You're right. I forgot to add the salad I ate before I went to bed. That brings the total to 1952 cals eaten. And I didn't add in my activities, either. That's what fitday calculated just from lifestyle and current bodyweight. Seems kinda high to me, cuz when I used Jacob's method for figuring my maintenance cals it came out to between 2100 and 2200. What do you think?
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Old 03-12-2003, 02:28 PM
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I am more trustful of Jacob's methods of calculation than that of Fitday. And if your maintance is around 2200, then ~1700 cals (i.e. pre-salad) should be pretty correct. Try upping the protein just a bit, and dropping the carbs for a week.
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Old 03-12-2003, 02:39 PM
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well, on low carb days i compensate with more protein and maybe more olive oil on the salad. but, yes. if you cycle your carbs you also cycle your calorie intake. it's all about keeping your body guessing.
i agree on the cardio. you can do some more no problem. what i do precontest is one high intensity in the morning, one in the evening. both last for about 20-30 minutes. this of course sucks if you dont have some cardio equipment at home. but you can always run outside.
eat all your starchy carbs until like 4 pm. after that only fibrous.
i do figure competitions. i have three coming up in summer and i'm planning on doing one or two in fall in the states (my husband is american). the dieting is not so hard for me. i have to lose weight/fat for a show, that's the deal. sure it sucks sometimes but i love being up on stage. i have to say appetite control is not a big problem for me, since i eat so regularly. its more the cravings. i start to talk to haribo gummy bears in the grocery store and stuff like that. dream about pizza and bounty bars. weird.
but what helps for appetite control is stuff like hydroxycut or universal animal cuts. they make you burn too. and then i have to admit that i'm a TOTAL diet coke junkie. i'm drinking the stuff like every waking hour....
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Old 03-12-2003, 02:40 PM
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GoMom,
I start every day with my oatmeal/protein powder/nat PB concoction and some coffee. I've weaned myself from the full fat/ full sugar cappuccino's at the convenience stores to regular coffee with FF coffeemate and splenda. I do the gatorade/ protein combo post workout for the insulin spike. As I said, I was also eating a sweet potato every day for lunch (meal 3 or 4) but I've tried to cut that out because it was pushing my carbs too high. The rest is salad or fibrous veggies (I buy the frozen mixes in bulk at BJ's and heat them in the microwave several times a day). I've actually cut out all breads for the past few weeks, and I could live in a potato chip factory and never eat one! I am prone to giving in to the "just one bite" game when faced with cookies/donuts/candy at work- I try not to have them in my house.

And, no, I'm definitely not drinking enough water, and I drink too much diet Coke. There was a time when I was really religious about my water intake but I was CONSTANTLY going to the bathroom. Even my kids said, "Mom, you gotta stop drinking so much, this is ridiculous!" [img]/forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]. I have given up alcohol altogether and I was really hoping to see some good results from that. Not that I was an alcoholic, but one or two glasses of wine at dinner every day really adds up and it was an easy cut of 100-150 cals/day!
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Old 03-12-2003, 05:00 PM
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well, on low carb days i compensate with more protein...

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Not such a good idea. Almost half the protein will be converted to glucose (or some other type of sugar, my memory escapes me). You'd be much better off keeping your protein the same, and compensating for the dropped calories by adding some fats into your diet.
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Old 03-12-2003, 05:02 PM
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Hehehe...I can relate on the water thing. In high school, for some reason I thought these 24 oz water bottles were 12 oz or something screwy like that (I was tired when I was working out how many i should drink). I had to pee every five seconds for three days until I realized where I went wrong! You have to up your intake slowly. Course for me it doesn't matter so much cuz I always have to pee every hour or so. I have a baby bladder!
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Old 03-12-2003, 06:40 PM
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Here is copy of meal(s) schedule from today:

DAILY MEAL: 03/12/2003: Wednesday - Cal: 1786

Meal #1 / 8:00am:
1- Doctor's Choice for Women "Multi Vitamin"
1- Slow Release Vitamin C (1000mg)
1- Tonalin CLA 1000mg (750 actual)

Fiber One Cereal (1/2 cup dry /pre-measured)
(24g carbs, 3g protein, 60 calories)
1 cup real coffee (12 oz) w/splenda
(1 g carbs, 0 Protein, 0g Fat, 40 calories)
3 TBS Whipping Cream
(1 g carbs, 1g protein, 15g Fat, 140 calories)
1 Scoop/Op. Nutrition/Pro-Complex (w/water)
(1 carbs, 27 protein, 140 calories)

=31g protein, 27g Carbs, 15 Fat/Calories: 240

water 32oz.

Meal #2 /11:00am:
1.5 Scoops Op. Nutrition/Pro-Complex
(1.5 carbs, 41 protein, 210 calories)
3/4 TBS Flax Oil
(0g carbs, 12g Fat, 101 calories)
1/2 cup mixed berries
(5 g carbs, 0g protein, 22 calories)

=41g Protein, 6.5 Carbs, 12 Fat/Calories: 333

Meal #3 /2:00p:
1- Doctor's Choice for Women "Multi Vitamin"
1- Tonalin CLA 1000mg (750 actual)

4.5 oz. steamed chicken breast w/bruchetta (weight raw)
(0 carbs, 36 protein, 10 Fat, 241 calories) ??Totally screwed me up!! Atkins says diff. than Fitday.com ??
1/2 cup frozen green beans (nuked)
(4 carbs, 1 protein, 0 Fat/ 17 calories)
2 slice Mozerella Cheese (low fat)
(2 carbs, 14 protein , 6 Fat, 140 cal)
1/2 cup brown rice
(20 carbs, 2 protein, 110 calories)

=52g Protein , 26g Carbs, 16 Fat/Calories: 508



Meal #4 /4:30p:
1.5 Scoops Op. Nutrition/Pro-Complex
(1.5 carbs, 41 protein, 210 calories)
3/4 TBS Flax Oil
(0g carbs, 12g Fat, 120 calories)
1/2 cup mixed berries
(5 g carbs, 0g protein, 22 calories)

=41g Protein, 6.5 Carbs, 12g Fat/Calories: 352


WORKOUT 5:30pm-6:45pm: BICEPS/TRICEPS, CALVES
water 32oz.

Meal #5 /7:00p:
1- Doctor's Choice for Women "Multi Vitamin"
1- Tonalin CLA 1000mg (750 actual)

4.5 oz. steamed chicken breast w/tsp.bruchetta (weight raw)
(0 carbs, 36 protein, 10 Fat, 241 calories)
1/2 cup mixed berries frozen w/splenda
(5 carbs, 0g protein, 22 calories)
3 Tonalins CLA’s (for day) 3 Fat ea.=9grams/90cal.)
(0g carb, 9g Fat, 90calories)

= 36g Protein, 5 Carbs, 19 Fat/Calories: 353

water 32oz.

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=201 Protein, 71 Carbs, 74g Fat - Calories: 1786
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Daily Supplement Program:
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3-Multi Vitamins
3-Tonalin CLA
NO BCAA'S - ONLY ON CUT!
2 Antioxidants in A.M. & AFTER training (Vitamin C 1000 mg)
1 1000mg Calcium (before bed)
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Fitday.com link to my Journal/Calories Burned vs. Eaten for past week:
http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...wner=Bladezz33

P.S. Note on fitday counts are off. So I double check w/Atkinscenter.com for some totals.
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Old 03-13-2003, 03:58 AM
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hey afolov,
i didn't mean it like i compensate the calorie intake on low carb days with protein. precontest i go down to 60 grams of carbs on low days. its clear that on these days i down one more chicken breast.
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Old 03-13-2003, 09:09 AM
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