Train Hard, Recover Harder

[taylorryan]

Originally Posted by Achillesreborn

So almost like a form of HD?

Yeah, it actually is an old HD of mike mentzer. I like his old stuff, thats when i think (at least for me)his stuff was golden.

I like the one set principle, i just have a hard time gaining from it like i want to. (i gain from it, i just gain faster doing two sets).

[will-work4andro]

my 2 cents...overtraining is very real in my opinion...i agree it doesn't happen very often with resistance training, but it certainly CAN happen...the point about bulgarian weightlifters working out for 6 hours a day...honestly they are probably not even completing 1 minute of actual work that entire 6 hours, most of it is rest...the you can't overtrain, you can undereat...not true either, especially with aerobic exercise...a lot of those guys are taking in tons of calories, but can still be overtrained...overtraining is simply "a decrease in performance" without adequate rest by manipulating sets/reps/weight...you can run the risk of overtraining regardless of the amount of food you eat. does it happen very often with resistance training, no, can it...yes...good discussion so far

[klosey]

Originally Posted by will-work4andro

my 2 cents...overtraining is very real in my opinion...i agree it doesn't happen very often with resistance training, but it certainly CAN happen...the point about bulgarian weightlifters working out for 6 hours a day...honestly they are probably not even completing 1 minute of actual work that entire 6 hours, most of it is rest...the you can't overtrain, you can undereat...not true either, especially with aerobic exercise...a lot of those guys are taking in tons of calories, but can still be overtrained...overtraining is simply "a decrease in performance" without adequate rest by manipulating sets/reps/weight...you can run the risk of overtraining regardless of the amount of food you eat. does it happen very often with resistance training, no, can it...yes...good discussion so far

while i agree it can happen yes but with how the bodybuilding 'guru's of the world talk about overtraining at the moment i'd be happier with 1% actually overtraining and not knowing that 80% undertraining because they were told its overtraining

[will-work4andro]

Originally Posted by klosey

while i agree it can happen yes but with how the bodybuilding 'guru's of the world talk about overtraining at the moment i'd be happier with 1% actually overtraining and not knowing that 80% undertraining because they were told its overtraining

agree with that point 100%...because most guru's don't understand what overtraining is

[Achillesreborn]

Originally Posted by will-work4andro

my 2 cents...overtraining is very real in my opinion...i agree it doesn't happen very often with resistance training, but it certainly CAN happen...the point about bulgarian weightlifters working out for 6 hours a day...honestly they are probably not even completing 1 minute of actual work that entire 6 hours, most of it is rest...the you can't overtrain, you can undereat...not true either, especially with aerobic exercise...a lot of those guys are taking in tons of calories, but can still be overtrained...overtraining is simply "a decrease in performance" without adequate rest by manipulating sets/reps/weight...you can run the risk of overtraining regardless of the amount of food you eat. does it happen very often with resistance training, no, can it...yes...good discussion so far

Absolutely agree

[taylorryan]

What do you guys think? How much does your cardio help you to recover, in your opinion?

I just thought that it is interesting. I notice not much recovery difference with regular cardio, but if i swim... Whole other story, nah mean?!? I am ready after that!

[klosey]

depends on the cardio, cardio still uses the muscle but in a non destructive manor so its still pulling in nutrients