Train Hard, Recover Harder

[Commander]

Originally Posted by Achillesreborn

wow this guy has no idea what he is talking about...scary

huh?

Originally Posted by klosey

chris is one of best in bodybuilding, eleberate bro

while I don't know about "one of the best", I do always enjoy his articles and feel he delivers some very good information with a body to back it up.

[klosey]

Originally Posted by Commander

huh?



while I don't know about "one of the best", I do always enjoy his articles and feel he delivers some very good information with a body to back it up.

i mean at writting articles not in a literal glass charles way

[T-DOG]

Ok, I do chest and tri's Monday, legs and shoulders Wednesday, and back and bi's Friday.....so your saying I could do chest and tri's Monday and Thursday, legs and shoulders Tuesday and Friday, and back and bi's Wednesday and Saturday and not over train??? Basically 2 body parts a day 2 times per week with only one days rest on Sunday and make gains without over training form it???

[Achillesreborn]

Originally Posted by ZachE84

My thought is if you body does not tell you to stop (IE: stress injury, overuse injury, etc) then you aren't over training.

So you're willing to wait until you're injured before you rest?

[MslAdct83]

If I push myself too hard (usually too high of volume) I get sick and I eat like a horse and my diet is tight! That's why I tend to follow high intensity style lifting protocols. Maximum muscular damage in the shortest amount of time. Get in, get it done, get out. Following this protocol has allowed me to continue to gain 10 lbs a year for seven years.

[Achillesreborn]

Originally Posted by MslAdct83

If I push myself too hard (usually too high of volume) I get sick and I eat like a horse and my diet is tight! That's why I tend to follow high intensity style lifting protocols. Maximum muscular damage in the shortest amount of time. Get in, get it done, get out. Following this protocol has allowed me to continue to gain 10 lbs a year for seven years.

Absolutely 100% agree!!! Anyone who says HIT is easy or that it's for lazy people has never tried TRUE HIT! It's exhausting

[klosey]

Originally Posted by Achillesreborn

Absolutely 100% agree!!! Anyone who says HIT is easy or that it's for lazy people has never tried TRUE HIT! It's exhausting

tried it but the lack of gym time makes me end up changing it so i do 2 sessions a day. i enjoy training

[klosey]

Originally Posted by T-DOG

Ok, I do chest and tri's Monday, legs and shoulders Wednesday, and back and bi's Friday.....so your saying I could do chest and tri's Monday and Thursday, legs and shoulders Tuesday and Friday, and back and bi's Wednesday and Saturday and not over train??? Basically 2 body parts a day 2 times per week with only one days rest on Sunday and make gains without over training form it???

yes, some people train twice a day year in year out...but its also conditioning that effects this. someone who normal trains 3 days a week going to do 10 times a week would overtrain as the body wouldnt adapt, however adding a session or two a week extra after 6 month or so would not cause the body to have to adapt so radically.

i would suggest staying with what works though and not change it up for the sake of it

[Achillesreborn]

Originally Posted by klosey

tried it but the lack of gym time makes me end up changing it so i do 2 sessions a day. i enjoy training

I totally understand where you're coming from. I love being in the gym everyday and at one point in my training career I was going to the gym 6 days a week for nearly 2 hours a day and sometimes twice a day (following Arnold's routine from the "Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding") and I didn't "feel" evertrained. What did end up happening is I lost some strength, muscle started to deteriorate, and I found it nearly impossible to gain an extra pound because I was burning so many calories in the gym so I had to stuff my face.

I did manage to get great results on this type of program going from 126 lbs in 2004 to 195 lbs last summer 2008. My arms even measured in at 17 1/4 at 5'10". I wouldn't say I have "freak" genetics but I do think I have fairly decent genetics but even that much training was too much. Overtraining is defined as training to such an extent that the BODY doesn't have time to fully recover and so a slow-down or cessation of one's progress occurs and a period of rest is needed (usually prescribed as 1-2 weeks off from the gym).

HIT definitely feels like you stimulate way more muscle fiber, especially when you conduct every exercise with a 4-2-4 tempo, "It's Extreme" - Harold & Kumar (Extreme Punk).

[MslAdct83]

I started just like you, but stumbled upon high intensity do to necessity. I still wanted to train hard and make good consistent gains, but I needed more time for school. I'm glad I made the switch. I used to get sick (as I said before), and gains in strength/mass were more difficult for me to come by as well. At 5'7" I've gone from 135lbs to 215. I've got about three more months before I start butting again and I'd like to be at least 225 before. I wouldn't say I keep myself tight, but I'm definitely not letting myself go. Last summer I would have competed somewhere around 180, by the way things are going I'm looking at 190. Should be awesome!