Understood. I get what you are saying about it depending on specificity, and I doubt one could get far competing in their under-roos, so I get ya there too. My thoughts on this were geared more towards those who relied on gear to get them fit more so than hard work and dedication, because the impression I was getting from the discussion I came across was that some folks felt that spending the cash alone would get a guy fit. Thanks for the input about the gloves. I try to use them less and less, but some lifts with the EZ bar really wrench my hands if I don't wear them.
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