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Commander 01-08-2009 04:13 PM

Alkaline Diets Increase Muscle Mass
 
I posted the link to the article and the conclusion below. My question is (since my diet is pretty low in vegetables) how much of their suggested ideas would I need to reduce acidity. The article mentions;

Sodium Bicarbonate (I would take as tabs or baking soda)
Potassium (I would take as tabs)
Glutamine
Adding Almonds to a meal

So how many grams or almonds would I need to actually make an impact in my diet? Let's assume I am pretty acidic.

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/c...w/1383/51/1/3/

Eat Your Veggies!!
Bodybuilding is a way of life, eating a high protein/high fat rich in sodium chloride without vegetables can cause a chronic state of mild acidosis. I am not condoning a vegetarian diet, but based on the new research eating vegetables with your high protein meals can neutralize the acidity and result in a more alkaline state. The blood is supposed to be slightly alkaline, yet modern western diets promotes acidosis which causes muscle protein loss, both by enhancing protein degradation and by inhibiting protein synthesis. This evidence suggests that maintenance of normal pH will help to preserve muscle mass and thereby improves health. Modifying the effect of dietary sodium chloride and potassium-base can prevent the age-related decline in muscle mass, kidney stones, and perhaps age related decline in renal function. Re-exchanging the NaCl in our present diet for the potassium-base that our ancestral species ate in abundance can be shown to correct diet-induced low-grade metabolic acidosis, and the consequent biochemical evidences of decreased growth hormone secretion, and increased protein catabolism. Beyond that, the supplementation of the diet with potassium-base can override the effects of NaCl loading on blood pressure and urinary calcium excretion. Thus, increasing dietary potassium-base to levels approaching those of our stone-age forebears, either with fruits and non-grain plant foods, or with supplemental potassium-base, would seem to hold particular promise for preventing or delaying expression of these age- and diet-related diseases and their consequences.
 The best way to get adequate potassium in the diet is not through supplements or vitamins. Eating a wide variety of healthy foods that contain potassium is usually the best. Consuming too much potassium may lead to heart problems and or death.
 Adding avocados and almonds which are alkaline will decrease the acid load of a meal.
 Add Supplemental Glutamine - glutamine supplementation has been shown to neutralize acids. Interestingly, during metabolic acidosis intestinal glutamine uptake is increased, which shows the body is trying to increase its glutamine content in order to correct its acid imbalance.
 Add Sodium Bicarbonate (Baking Soda) To Your Workout Shake - sodium bicarbonate is a great buffering agent and may also increase Athletic Performance.

will-work4andro 01-08-2009 04:25 PM

honestly i'm sure your body isn't in chronic acidosis...Gabe or Jake could probably offer better insight than myself, but i wouldn't put too much stock in the idea that your chronically acidic. there are many factors that go into metabolic acidosis but i'm sure you are good to go bro...i'd just keep doing what you're doing...unless you're an alcoholic, chronically starved, or diabetic...wouldn't worry too much

Venom 01-08-2009 05:45 PM

We discussed this before sometime, think Jeremy and I did. I think you want acute acidity during your workout - appears to increase a lot of growth factors. So I highly question adding buffers around your workout, like sodium bicarbonate.

But otherwise, acidity chronically may lower protein synthesis. Garlick, my mentor did the research on this. He basically told me just eat your leafy greens! So that's my advise. And don't do something stupid like consume 500 grams of protein like many bodybuilders do today.

Commander 01-08-2009 06:15 PM

Andro,
I am not an alcoholic, chronically starved, or diabetic, lol!

Venom,
Yeah, I kinda figured that around my workout I wouldn't want the sodium bicarbonate in spite of what the article said (because thanks to many insightful discussions on this site I know the benefits of lactic acid and other biproducts of a grueling workout :)).

I was more looking at the picture of my entire day, possibly being acidic. I admit that I don't eat enough leafy greens, assuming that I keep my current level of vegetables constant, could a little potassium as a supplement help to make up for some of the lack of vegetables?

If it helps, I currently get about 1828mg of sodium and 5325mg of potassium throughout my day (excluding workout days where I use the recommended sodium in my PWO).

Venom 01-08-2009 07:17 PM

That is more than enough potassium. K supplement suck...really low concentrations. Plus it is dangerous to spike K with sups...can get heart issues. Whole foods are much better; and looks like you are getting plenty from whole foods.

Commander 01-08-2009 07:54 PM

Dang, good to know. I definitely don't want to mess with my heart. Thanks for the insightful replies guys.


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