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wormeater
03-12-2007, 04:00 PM
Anyone know about this stuff ?
I've know 3 guys that take those pills that are called M1T.

After only one week I could see a huge difference in the mass of one of my friend! He was stronger than ever.
He stopped taking some because his nipple where starting to hurt when they where bumped...

Another one of the guys had the same mass effect, but he had change of humor.

I think it is testosterone but I'm not quite sure.

Anyone know more about this stuff ?

wormeater
03-12-2007, 04:04 PM
I just found out on a french site (my primary language) that it's called Methyl-1-testosterone.
It's seem that those are like, legal steroids, or something like that, synthetic steroids ??

wormeater
03-12-2007, 04:11 PM
you guys may want to check this

http://www.ironmagazine.com/review25.html

DirtbagDan
03-12-2007, 06:04 PM
Yes, M1T stands for Methyl-1-Testosterone (or, 17alpha-methyldihydroboldenone). It is a prohormone, which is essentially a form of steroid. However, M1T is the prohormone variant of the potent steroid 1-testosterone. That is why your friend has made such dramatic gains and improvements. I would highly advise you (or anyone deciding to do prohormones or steroids) to do at least 12 months of heavy hard research into what needs to be done when taking steroids. Research the who, what, where, how, when, and why of steroids from reputable books. Wikipedia and websites on the internet do not count.

Anyways, M1T is notable for it's non-aromatizing aspects because it lacks the 4-ene group necessary for aromatization. The problem of bloating and water retention still arises with this, though. That means that although it doesn't aromatize into Estrogen, it still has progestational activity, and that's not good, because you can still get gyno (breast tissue formation) from it too! An anti-estrogen and aromatase-inhibitor MUST be used during and after a cycle of M1T. And because of it's progestational activity, the biological actions of Estrogen can be actually intensified! And because it is in prohormone form, it is VERY dangerous and toxic to the liver. I wouldn't use this, and if you are considering it, you are much better off opting for straight steroids than prohormones.

ATK187
03-13-2007, 02:50 AM
I have heard it is very cruddy..and can lead to some serious illness...but it's just what i have heard off other forums.

klosey
03-13-2007, 12:03 PM
just so you are aware this is one of the supplements banned during the pro-hormone ban the other year

DirtbagDan
03-13-2007, 12:16 PM
Oh I forgot to mention, about your friend's nipples hurting. The reason why is because he was developing gynocomastia (breast tissue formation). You see, this is why I despise when people go and do steroids or prohormones without first doing a solid amount of research and being prepared. Your friend probably did not know what the hell to do while on the stuff (i.e. no aromatase-inhibitors, no estrogen blockers, etc.) and he messed himself up. Depending on whether or not he stopped early enough, he may have developed what is commonly known in slang as 'b!tch t!ts' by now already. Your other friend's change of humor is a result of the mood changing effects of shifting the balance of hormones in his body.

Now, one might be thinking "but that site says M1T doesn't convert to estrogen, so why the development of breasts!?". Well, that site you provided (http://www.ironmagazine.com/review25.html) is HIGHLY misleading. This is why I reccomend everyone do research from reputable sources such as published books! That article did not mention ANYTHING about progesterone conversion! And that is the main problem with M1T, is that it converts to progesterone, NOT estrogen! And progesterone is a highly amplified hormone similar to estrogen, with all the same effects. That means that the usual ESTROGEN blockers will not block PROGESTERONE. If you don't have something like Nolvadex on hand to block the breast tissue receptors when your nipples start hurting or feel swollen (the first symptoms and signs of gyno), well... plainly said... you're screwed. Just like your friend. In any case, the only way to get rid of gyno once it has formed is surgery. It is not irreversible once it has reached a certain point.

I urge anyone who is thinking of doing a cycle of prohormones or steroids to first do a solid 12 months of hard research on it!

lifting4life
03-13-2007, 03:58 PM
That'd a boy dirtbagdan!... Keep preachin brutha!!

klosey
03-13-2007, 04:40 PM
hmmm still on the ball DirtbagDan...

i think its safe to say he has not researched at all just jumped on the hype wagon...

wormeater

i have personally tried this stuff even with a small amount of nolva milk thistles at 5g a day and tongkat (think thats spelt right), during use and full pct this stuff is nasty raised liver count, and mainly water gains........ he is right about the 'humor' this stuff ***ks your head makes you edgy like ephra sometimes does......

stay well clear its banned for a reason, many who have taken this and steroids (not saying anyone on here has) but even ask the gym guys...... this stuff is worse than the amount of steroids pro's use

wormeater
03-14-2007, 03:26 AM
OOO!

I was curious guys. I never planned to take those, I'm way to coward to take prohormone/steroids or anything that have permanant or heavy side-effects.

I was just wondering if any of you knew about this, because the gain were amazing!

Anyways, I do know that M1T is illegal in the USA but I am not quite sure it's banned from Canada.

DirtbagDan, way to go man, this is pretty complete and helpful, thank you

rickck48
03-14-2007, 07:15 PM
Thanks worm I was checking this out, and it doesn't sound like it is worth the price, do appreciate the link. /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

wormeater
03-14-2007, 07:49 PM
No problem

daver
03-14-2007, 09:59 PM
that site is encouraging anabolic steroids wormeater

klosey
03-15-2007, 08:49 AM
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that site is encouraging anabolic steroids wormeater

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ironmag simply state if your gonna do em do them properly and tell you the right way to do them, they dont force people to take steroids