Lean-extreme

[Venom]

What are your guys on this product here, http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1608

Heard some ancedotal talk about it. Seems like an offshoot of DHEA/70XO. Heard that it may lower test, and the benefits are that it lowers cortisol improves T3.

[Doug Golder]

Venom just from the reviews on the site most people were not happy with the results. Only one person claimed they lost 2.5 inches off of there waist.

[XenoWang]

Designer Supplements has a solid line of products- I've used their Glucophase XR (K-R-ALA product with some other ingredients) and am currently using Melting Point (a tetradecylthioacetic product meant to serve as a potent PPAR agonist).

Recently I've been looking into the differences between visceral adipose tissue and subcutaneous adipose tissue and it may just be me, but I suspect that one of the big contributing factors for my lack of ab definition at even relatively low body fat levels is from a relatively high proportion of VAT. I may be totally off in my thinking though, heh. In any case, since cortisol is directly related to VAT storage, 7-OH products like Lean Extreme, which claim to reduce cortisol and affect VAT storage, seem pretty interesting. A couple years back there was a highly popular 7-OXO transdermal by Avant Labs called Ab-Solved. The feedback on the product was resoundingly positive but unfortunately production was discontinued since the patent holder 7-OXO didn't want it put in a transdermal delivery system. People say that oral 7-OXO pales in comparison to the transdermal approach but apparently 7-OH holds some promise. I'm considering giving it a spin when I start dieting down a little bit in February, but we'll see.

[Venom]

Thanks for the feedback!

Great research, XenoWang. I looked into several cortisol inhibitors, and this one seemed the safest; the only side effect I seen was reduced test; though, there are conflicting studies. There is another one called SNS reduce, but I have heard additional side effects from using that.

Would be great if something like this worked! Keeping cortisol levels at bay on a calorie restricted diet, and using hours of cardio is incredibly difficult.

[XenoWang]

From what I've seen, SNS Reduce XT and DS Lean Extreme contain essentially the same primary ingredient (7-OH). Reduce lists the alpha and beta forms of 7-OH whereas I'm not sure whether Lean Extreme contains both or only one component.

[Venom]

You are right, and "reduce" is actually cheaper at several places.

I actually meant "retain".

[Adam Knowlden]

Great breakdown Xeno!!