The M.A.S.S. cycle. Anyone used it?

[DirtbagDan]

Sorry for making two threads in a row, but these are different questions.

I recently bought Nxcare's M.A.S.S Cycle package deal thing since I recently used Nxcare's R.I.P.P.E.D System when I was on my cut, and the RIPPED system worked amazingly well. So, I thought i'd go for the MASS Cycle now that my cut is over and I am going to begin my bulk next week. If you don't know what i'm talking about, it's this: https://ssl.perfora.net/s146665725.onlinehome.us/nxcare/myweb.php?hls=10521&prod=304.

I bought it, read through the whole MASS book that came in the box in 4 hours, and then went and talked to my uncle about how the system works. I've always gone to him since I was a kid for questions and info on the detailed stuff concerning science and biology since he's an expert with a degree in science, chemistry, biology and crap. Anyways, i'm wondering if anyone else here has used it and what they think. The whole Creatine attached to alpha-ketoglutarate sounds very interesting, I wonder if it works.

I havent been able to find any reviews on this thing anywhere, so i'm asking if anyone has tried this here?

[l0stsheep]

You have a lot of controvesial(read: not proven to work) supplements in there. Some people claim great gains, others say it's just like a placebo.

Either way, I hope you make some good progress!

(Your Uncle sounds cool. I'd love to have someone in my family with whom I could spit-ball nutrition and training ideas.)

[ElGrizzle]

I have used nitro t3, mass and strength gains were great, but sleeping on it sucks because you wake up every other hour. Its not like you have a super bad sleep or anything, it just feels like you havent slept the whole way through. This is because nitro t3 has the ZMA combo in it, I have heard numerous people waking up every other hour when taking ZMA.

But, it definatly made me a mean (!@#$%^&*) in the gym. It gives you that go get em attitude. You do get acne from it though.

Thats wierd man. Most people sleep really really well when they use ZMA. I am using T3 right now, and I am finding that I am sleeping much deeper than usual. It seems to be working well also

[DirtbagDan]

Yeah I use ZMA in a seperate supplement right now (but im going to stop using it once I start the MASS Cycle in a few days), and I sleep just fine...

[Derganc]

I'm curious what the admins have to say about this... I'd enjoy reading a break down of all the ingredants and if/how they work. /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif Anyone interested?

[DirtbagDan]

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I'm curious what the admins have to say about this... I'd enjoy reading a break down of all the ingredants and if/how they work. /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif Anyone interested?

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They broke them down and described how everything works in the book that came in the box. But, yeah, i'd love to know the admin's thoughts on this. I've just started taking the stuff today, by the way. We'll see how this goes!

[dashforce]

My two lifting buddies are both on the MASS system right now, just started it.

I'm following basically the same training regimen, but doing just malto/dextrose/whey PWO plus a few other supplemental minerals, no MASS, no creatine.

We've taken several measurements at the beginning of the 3 week MASS cycle and we're going to take again 1 week after the cycle ends (to make sure residual pump from the NO and everything has dissipated).

I'll report back and we'll see how it stacks up for us.