My salvation and my struggles

[jlands]

I remember not so long ago when I was trying to find out more about Christ. The pastor at the church that I no longer attend was very short with answers. When I would ask him why I should seek my salvation his response was 'Don't you want to go to Heaven?' He didn't know what to say when I simply said 'No, if I made a mistake why should I go to Heaven just for confessing'.

To this day I don't believe I prize my salvation because I want to go to Heaven. It is such a treasure to me, because I love God and He loves me.

I know most of the people that go to that church go through the motions. When it matters they are no where to be seen.

I ask lots of people this question. I always get the knee jerk 'He would never', but what if? How would you react? What would a person say if God told them that even though they have server Him all their lives they could no go to Heaven, because that was His wish?

I know what I would say, but that is because I love Him and serve Him. Doesn't matter what He asks.

Many people claim to be able to give everything up for God, but that is so they receive another reward. Should their be anymore reward then to serve God?

Sorry if this is a rant. Just having a little spiritual struggle lately.

[War5475]

I know what you mean. No matter whats going on in my life. I am only happy when im serving him. Its simply because the way he made us. He created us with spot that is reserved for only him. Its not about the reward. Or what treasures we have stored up in heaven. Its about haveing him dwell in you. And you can only have that when you are walking close with him.

There are so many that go through the motions. And as you say are doing things so they will be blessed here and in heaven. So that others will cherish them. But at the end of the day it only matters if you are with him.

I would serve him to the end. Even if he extiquished my existance after i died or tossed me into hell for eternity. Because i know i could atleast tast happyness at least for alittle while.

God BLess.

[Mavrick]

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I would serve him to the end. Even if he extiquished my existance after i died or tossed me into hell for eternity. Because i know i could atleast tast happyness at least for alittle while.

[/ QUOTE ] i belive in god and i serve him, but i must admit, if he sent me to hell..id have a prbolem or two with that, becasue i do MOST things out of selflessness, but for ALL of my doings not to be rewarded in the end...well lets just say that'd piss me off,and if i went to hell...than it would mean that jesus's death didnt affect my life if i wasnt saved, even after all the good i did and way i lead my life....so all in all, i do belive in god, but i expect it to be more than a one way relationship....i know this sounds VERY un christian like...but my goal is to get into heaven, if i still have a body and a mind, im going to be extremly pissed....

[War5475]

I understand what your saying Mav. One thing i will say is as you get older and your walk with God is longer. It gets Way easier to do the things that God wants. Because you change and it starts to be that you dont do things because God told you or commanded you. You want to do them and that becomes what makes you happy. As you get older you leave behind things that meant everything to you at the time. But no longer are important to you. I dont mean this in a when you grow up kind of way. More of a when youve Gone this many miles kinda way. /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Its sorta like when you meet that speacial lady and your just happier with her than being anywher else. And one day you find out she has cancer and is going to die. You hate it because you wanted to be with her for the rest of your life. But in the end your just happy you got to spend any kind of time with her.

[Hooah101]

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I would serve him to the end. Even if he extiquished my existance after i died or tossed me into hell for eternity. Because i know i could atleast tast happyness at least for alittle while.

[/ QUOTE ] i belive in god and i serve him, but i must admit, if he sent me to hell..id have a prbolem or two with that, becasue i do MOST things out of selflessness, but for ALL of my doings not to be rewarded in the end...well lets just say that'd piss me off,and if i went to hell...than it would mean that jesus's death didnt affect my life if i wasnt saved, even after all the good i did and way i lead my life....so all in all, i do belive in god, but i expect it to be more than a one way relationship....i know this sounds VERY un christian like...but my goal is to get into heaven, if i still have a body and a mind, im going to be extremly pissed....

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Hey mav. Its good to ponder heaven and all but good works have nothing to do with going there.

[Mavrick]

i know that good works dont get you there, its beliving in him etc, im just saying, if i do all of that and still go to hell than id be pretty angrey

[Adam Knowlden]

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i know that good works dont get you there, its beliving in him etc, im just saying, if i do all of that and still go to hell than id be pretty angrey


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The bible says we have the witness in us we are saved, and also that God has put eternity in our hearts.

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What would a person say if God told them that even though they have server Him all their lives they could no go to Heaven, because that was His wish?


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Well I believe it would depend on your definition of heaven.

Heaven is to be in God's presence face to face.

That is what makes me want to be there, not the gold streets and pearly gates. /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Without salvation, we can not enter heaven, or in other words we can not enter God's presence.

[4 His Glory]

As I have grown in my faith I have found that my salvation was not for me. At no point was it to better my standing in this life or the next. He called me as His own to bring glory to His name not mine. Without His imeasureable love for me and the sacrifice of His Son I could not have and still can't secure my place in eternity by my own means. To know the creator of all has taken me from a broken, drug addicted, liar, thief (list goes on and on) and called me as His child to be a vessel to bring glory to His most holy name and to think some day He will look me in the eyes and say "I am proud of you my child and I love you." We are called to eternal worship and when you say "not be rewarded for your good doings." The rewards that await you are heavenly and unimageinable for His glory and reverance not yours. Your flesh right now may say that you would be upset if you dident go to heaven but I believe the feeling we will get by being in the presence of the Most Holy God will out weigh any feeling we have ever felt in our time here on earth.

I could go on and on....I really appreciate this dicussion board and the truth that is spoken here on a daily basis.

God Bless