The 3 Karma
03-30-2005, 02:14 AM
Ok, this may be long, but I’ll love you forever if you can help! Hey, at least my descriptions are detailed, I’m making it easy for you - c’mon, do something nice for me /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
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Symptoms:
Middle back: it feels like it would be the spine or something close or related. The pain exists from approximately belly-button level to mid pec level, while the second one does from the bottom of the ribs to middle pec level.
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I feel it at two times. When doing hack squats or shoulder press movements, I feel it. I have taken time off standard squats. The best way I have to describe it is a compression feeling, compressing vertically. It's dull more than anything else, but definitely not totally. I'm off normal squats (partly) to ensure good form, the machine I use for hacks makes it easy to do it quite well. The best way to make it dissipate quicker immediately after the set is to pull very lightly, like a deadlift, on a stationary object on the ground. When I say pain, it's nothing very excruciating or anything. It's just a feeling that definitely doesn't feel like it should be there. Sorry if my explanation is not clear, it's hard to explain!
Hack squats: I did 240 today, if it matters. So, not all that much
Shoulder press: I have shoulder problems that I'm slowly overcoming, so 35-40 lb dbs usually
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The other thing is very similar. It's more common, I may feel it sometimes during everyday tasks. I've been helping renovate a house for my parents lately, miscellaneous tasks sometimes aggravated it.. Things like carrying/pivoting heavy objects, spotting my bro on bench press – he does until failure, so I take the weight every time. (We have a very high off the ground bench, it can be hard to get up) or other assorted tasks. The other thing that triggers it is essentially going into deadlift form. So, a straight as possible back. To me, going straight makes it feel concave. Once I actually go concave, I feel it more. The last thing that makes me feel it is a very deep breath into the chest (not stomach).
This one feels slightly different. Though, I assume they are both quite related. The pain is a small bit sharper (but not sporadic like lots of sharp pains), but should still be defined as (borderline) dull. This one is very hard to explain, so bear with me… I guess you could say compressing the side closest to my back. The best way I can think of to describe it is like someone is squeezing on whatever connects each part of the spine, or in between the vertebrae. Again, ‘pain’ doesn’t mean anything that is excruciating.
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Possible causes?
I spend huge amounts of time at the computer – I even do ALL of my schooling from a computer. Bad posture could be a cause - always hunched over. Yes, I'm trying to improve it.
My deadlift form used to be horrible. My upper back was decently straight, but my lower back was arched. Beck then, I was doing 300 lbs, and I didn’t even know that I should push my lower back down and my butt out behind me.
Note: I have lower back trouble too, which may be related. The lower back pain came first, so it could also have possible been a cause. I need to go to bed now, so tomorrow, I’ll make a thread about it.
Note 2: I'm 15, so I'm still growing. That may have relevance for you smart people.
If anything is unclear, ask and I'll try to clarify. Any help would be unendingly appreciated!
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Symptoms:
Middle back: it feels like it would be the spine or something close or related. The pain exists from approximately belly-button level to mid pec level, while the second one does from the bottom of the ribs to middle pec level.
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I feel it at two times. When doing hack squats or shoulder press movements, I feel it. I have taken time off standard squats. The best way I have to describe it is a compression feeling, compressing vertically. It's dull more than anything else, but definitely not totally. I'm off normal squats (partly) to ensure good form, the machine I use for hacks makes it easy to do it quite well. The best way to make it dissipate quicker immediately after the set is to pull very lightly, like a deadlift, on a stationary object on the ground. When I say pain, it's nothing very excruciating or anything. It's just a feeling that definitely doesn't feel like it should be there. Sorry if my explanation is not clear, it's hard to explain!
Hack squats: I did 240 today, if it matters. So, not all that much
Shoulder press: I have shoulder problems that I'm slowly overcoming, so 35-40 lb dbs usually
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The other thing is very similar. It's more common, I may feel it sometimes during everyday tasks. I've been helping renovate a house for my parents lately, miscellaneous tasks sometimes aggravated it.. Things like carrying/pivoting heavy objects, spotting my bro on bench press – he does until failure, so I take the weight every time. (We have a very high off the ground bench, it can be hard to get up) or other assorted tasks. The other thing that triggers it is essentially going into deadlift form. So, a straight as possible back. To me, going straight makes it feel concave. Once I actually go concave, I feel it more. The last thing that makes me feel it is a very deep breath into the chest (not stomach).
This one feels slightly different. Though, I assume they are both quite related. The pain is a small bit sharper (but not sporadic like lots of sharp pains), but should still be defined as (borderline) dull. This one is very hard to explain, so bear with me… I guess you could say compressing the side closest to my back. The best way I can think of to describe it is like someone is squeezing on whatever connects each part of the spine, or in between the vertebrae. Again, ‘pain’ doesn’t mean anything that is excruciating.
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Possible causes?
I spend huge amounts of time at the computer – I even do ALL of my schooling from a computer. Bad posture could be a cause - always hunched over. Yes, I'm trying to improve it.
My deadlift form used to be horrible. My upper back was decently straight, but my lower back was arched. Beck then, I was doing 300 lbs, and I didn’t even know that I should push my lower back down and my butt out behind me.
Note: I have lower back trouble too, which may be related. The lower back pain came first, so it could also have possible been a cause. I need to go to bed now, so tomorrow, I’ll make a thread about it.
Note 2: I'm 15, so I'm still growing. That may have relevance for you smart people.
If anything is unclear, ask and I'll try to clarify. Any help would be unendingly appreciated!