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Coz
01-31-2005, 05:09 PM
With nutritionists spreading false information about what to eat post workout it is no surprise that I get this article by email today from my sister who is starting a new workout program. I tried to set her straight on what to eat post workout but I don't think she is seeing the light anytime soon.

When I was a newbie about 15 yrs ago, way before ABC and even before many modern nutritional studies my post workout shake consisted of whey with a Banana and Strawberries with some Gatorade. Not very good post workout nutrition but it seemed logical to me to get some good quality protein and some sugars. How in the world does vegetable bean soup and a roll seem logical even to someone who knows absolutely nothing about nutrition? What about Dried fruit and low fat cheese? Oh well.

So I will be trying to convince my sis not to follow this horrid advice.


There seems to be an error in the title of the article below, just replace best with WORST;


Top 10 Post-Workout Snacks
by Sue Gilbert, M.S., Nutritionist

During weight training you use muscle glycogen stores to fuel the workout. Those stores must be replenished for optimal muscle recovery as well as muscle growth and repair, so you will need carbohydrates as well as protein. Foods with both that are also low in fat are the best for you.

Contrary to common belief, athletes don't need much more protein than the average person, and most Americans eat more than enough. However, many women, in their quest to keep calories low, don't get as much as they should, so as a female athlete, you will need to be sure to strike a good balance of protein and carbs.

Remember, too much protein can lead to dehydration because your kidneys need more water to eliminate the extra nitrogen load.

Since protein takes longer to digest than carbohydrates, recovery will be delayed.
Here are 10 great post-workout snacks:

Skim milk (not only does it have protein and carbohydrates, it also has lots of water, which will help replace fluids lost from sweating)
Yogurt
Bagel with turkey breast slices (add desired veggies and mustard)
Tuna salad (made with non-fat mayo) on whole-wheat bread
Banana shake made with banana, orange juice and vanilla yogurt
Jar of sports drink and a cup of non-fat cottage cheese
Juice and a handful of dry-roasted soy nuts
Low-fat or non-fat cheese and crackers
Vegetable bean soup and a roll
Dried fruit and low-fat cheese

MansonOzz
01-31-2005, 05:21 PM
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KrYptic.x
01-31-2005, 05:28 PM
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rev
01-31-2005, 05:55 PM
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Kühn
01-31-2005, 05:57 PM
These shall do also:

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DukeOfEarl
01-31-2005, 07:10 PM
I used to whack a cup of skim milk powder in a blender when i didnt have a job and couldnt afford whey... /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

skim milk powder is the poor man's supplement!

tom10
01-31-2005, 07:34 PM
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Those stores must be replenished for optimal muscle recovery as well as muscle growth and repair, so you will need carbohydrates as well as protein. Foods with both that are also low in fat are the best for you.


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This is almost right, simple carbs.

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Yogurt
Bagel with turkey breast slices (add desired veggies and mustard)
Tuna salad (made with non-fat mayo) on whole-wheat bread
Banana shake made with banana, orange juice and vanilla yogurt
Jar of sports drink and a cup of non-fat cottage cheese
Juice and a handful of dry-roasted soy nuts
Low-fat or non-fat cheese and crackers
Vegetable bean soup and a roll
Dried fruit and low-fat cheese

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Hmm....so....apparently you need less than 10g of protein post-workout?

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Remember, too much protein can lead to dehydration because your kidneys need more water to eliminate the extra nitrogen load.

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If this is true, there's a miracle supplement that will cure this for a lifetime.....WATER.

JoE DoN 216
01-31-2005, 07:59 PM
i know right, do these people assume that while your sweating and getting dehydrated working out your not chugging down water between every single set let alone glugging water down all day like the body really needs?!!?! and judging by the meals they give......... do they assume the average person has a body weight of 5-10 pounds..........lots of protein /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif man where do people get this stuff

sandspawn
01-31-2005, 08:09 PM
When i hear, or read in this case , about people's beliefs concerning PWO shakes/food i'm torn between grabbing them by both shoudlers and yelling at them the proper way to replinish your body and sitting smugly back secure in the knowledge that i'll always be bigger than them....

JoE DoN 216
01-31-2005, 08:14 PM
If arnold was president the window of oppurtunity would be part of the highschool proficiency exams. /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif








and your sat score would be your bench squat dl total.
oh man id do bad right now X_x

MansonOzz
01-31-2005, 08:16 PM
What's more, is you've got to figure the ratio of educated lifters vs. others. I have no idea what they could possibly be but I am betting the house that we're outnumbered /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

So figuring their daily diet & lifting techniques into play, post workout nutrition likely falls into the "what-the-hell-ever" category /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Derganc
02-01-2005, 10:05 PM
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Best Smilie to describe that article.

President Wilson
02-02-2005, 05:21 PM
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Contrary to common belief, athletes don't need much more protein than the average person, and most Americans eat more than enough.

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This is a mantra. People like this feel that if they repeat this ignorant statement enough that it will magically become true.
It is based on older studies which only measured nitrogen extretion from increased urea in urine for protein needs, which did not take into account the fact that leucine oxidation which increases significantly during exercise does not participate in the urea cycle, it also does not take into account the significant nitrogen lost in sweat.

Venom and I will be smashing this, this year in JHR

JamesP
02-02-2005, 05:33 PM
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This is a mantra. People like this feel that if they repeat this ignorant statement enough that it will magically become true.It is based on older studies which only measured nitrogen extretion from increased urea in urine for protein needs, which did not take into account the fact that leucine oxidation which increases significantly during exercise does not participate in the urea cycle, it also does not take into account the significant nitrogen lost in sweat.

Venom and I will be smashing this, this year in JHR

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Awesome! That might be the most influential JHR article yet!

Ultra Man
02-02-2005, 07:19 PM
eating apples then brushing your teeth

President Wilson
02-02-2005, 11:50 PM
Right on James!