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desperad0
01-06-2005, 03:26 PM
my meal plan that i plan to follow for 3 months..geez! haha
1. oatmeal 1/2 cup whey 1 scoop (YES MILK NO MILK?)
2. PB 2tbsp and 1 chicken breast
3. either oatmeal or veggies with chicken breast
4. post workout meal whey + dextrose
5. 2 cups leafy green veggies with salmon or chicken
6. 1/2 cup (22 grams protein)cottage cheese, half scoop of whey and 1 tbsp PB, 1 gram flax seed, 2 grams salmon +fish oils
calories = 2540..i dont know if that is enough.
cause im 170 pounds..is that too little?
and the thing is i dont know like if PB is a good souce of EFA..i mean i know it is but everyone is taking flax seed and what not.
should i get flax seed or safflower etc.
another question
1. got some costco creatine im gonna try it out so i can maintain some muscle on my cut. i know i shoudl only take it with dextrose PWO..but what baout other times? like for loading phase..i gotta take it 5 times a day. 1 time is pwo and other times i just take it striaght up? with jsut water or a protein shake?
2.supplements.
im going to take creatine, whey and i dont know if i should get glutamine cause its super expensive..i mean i WANT to get it but im debating wether its worth it and i read about it and it is good stuff but i dont know yet. and im taking multivitamins. oh and for cafiene im drinking lots of green tea.
3.when im cutting im burning more than i take in calorie wise. I must cut slowly though so lets just say right now im liek 170..im bulking so im eating around 3500-4000
when i cut i take off 500 or 250 because two articles say something different.
4. i could never really get the peak for my bicep..its totally lagging like..i like concentration curls, preacher curls...every kinda curll..but it just wont get bigger! i donit know why like im brutally hitting them hard but i dunno
5.if you look at my chest like i said before i do lag in the lower part of the chest and the centre of my chest..the "inner chest" is also lagging..like im doing flys but sometimes when i do flys they start feeling liek they are mostly using my shoulders..im doing them right too i think.
and i took some newish kinda pictures but i couldnt take any good ones cause i just dont know how to photogrpah..im not an artist haha
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/p0rchmonkey/photo3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/p0rchmonkey/photo1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/p0rchmonkey/photo4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/p0rchmonkey/photo2.jpg
i have other pictures in the picture forum but yeah
this is it thanks!
bsimpson
01-06-2005, 06:49 PM
what are them marks on you pecs and delts
desperad0
01-06-2005, 08:42 PM
stretch marks..
desperad0
01-07-2005, 01:08 PM
mmmkay....BUMP?
desperad0
01-08-2005, 12:45 AM
still looking for advice...?
bsimpson
01-08-2005, 01:01 AM
ok that looks good but you will need more coices or you will go crazy
desperad0
01-08-2005, 06:36 PM
still waiting...
Glutamine is definately good from what I've read about it, you really should check ebay for it though it's super cheap. For your bi's, if you're just coming off a bulk they will look like !@#$%^&*. The peak portion will come from middle of the rep to the very top. You don't want to lose ur flexibility so don't only go from mid rep to the top. Try some 21s with them too. Check the exercise tab and look for flies to see if you're doing them right. A nice SS with flies is DB presses from however youre laying (flat, incline, decline). Right as you can't do another rep, pull them in and finish them off with the presses. That should help your chest. If you're lagging on the lower portion, just do more decline.
Always go 'til failure. That will stimulate some good growth. Switch your routine up with reps too. Just think of anything that will come as a shock to your muscles (super sets, giant sets, different exercises). Don't lift like a girly man either /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
As for your diet
You don't really need to load creatine if you don't want to but I guess it will help. Make sure you get natural peanut butter (Smuckers). Flaxseed is good but I don't take it and I'm having consistant gains, nevertheless it's worth it. I thought green tea was naturally decaffenated also. It doesn't matter if you take off 500 or 250, but 250 would definately be better.
Hope I helped.
desperad0
01-08-2005, 09:44 PM
yeah i think im gonna get some glutamine than..
and my creatine question..am i suppose to use creatinw tih high gi food or whatever when im taking it other than the time for PWO?
like in the morning do i just take it straight up with my protein shake? and for loading do ijust take it striaght up with wateR?
sucramdw
01-08-2005, 10:00 PM
Your asking a creatine question....the next step is to read the creatine forum, because that will answer your question.
I always include it in my PWO unless I'm cyclying and I'm off it (USE WATER). I take it in the morning with my protien shake too. If you're going to load, take about 20g a day but don't do it longer than 5 days I'd say. Then just take it in the morning, PWO and 2 other times a day (assuming its 5g a serving like in most). Make sure to drink LOADS of water. I don't mean 2-3 glasses a day, I mean a lot. Drink at least a glass an hour. I find that's the best way to do it. If you want to drink more, than do it, the more the better. I think you're also going to want to take it with dextrose if you can. Dextrose helps it shuttle it to your muscles. By the way, don't even consider Cell-Tech. I've learned a lot about it they put WAY to much dextrose in there per serving (75g). As for what you're suppose to take it with when it's not with your PWO or other protien shakes, I'm not sure what do use it with but I use orange juice. A lot of people might say just water but I'm not for sure.
Also, before posting anymore, read the creatine article. I didn't want to read it either but it was well worth the read.
desperad0
01-08-2005, 10:25 PM
well k..so i think i will take creatine with dextrose..and yeah and just water in the morning iguess
oh yeah
i CAN add it to my protein whey, dextrose with it right
so creatine, whey, and dextrose all in the same cup?
sucramdw
01-08-2005, 10:29 PM
Hey desperad0, your asking questions that can be answered in the first page of the creatine sticky, you should read that first. http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=870836&an=0&page=0#870836
READ, then ask....
desperad0
01-08-2005, 10:56 PM
i know that...but im just double checking ya know..cause new thigns are researched about everyday..so you never know
and FYI i did read it.
sucramdw
01-08-2005, 11:40 PM
well fyi, asking a question when you already know the answer is useless. You say your double checking, but the people who wrote the articles have the top knowledge for these subjects then anyone here. So asking a question that you already know the answer to is like asking, "are you sure"...which if they wern't, they wouldn't have written the articles in the first place.
A lot of people don't read the articles and ask questions on here because usually the articles are so long they don't want to read it. I do it myself. It's more convenient to just ask and get an answer in 2-3 minutes than to spend 30 minutes looking for the answer to one question. You cannot tell me you would rather read an article (unless you were really interested which is possible) than to get a quick answer. I can see how you guys could get mad at this and I'm definately not saying you shouldn't get irritated, I'm just saying it's far more convenient.
desperad0
01-09-2005, 12:59 AM
sucramdw..i didnt mean to come off on that kind of tone..i just thought it would be easier to go fyi but the tone was meant to be a sincere one and not a jerkish one.
when i read articles i do read them thoroughly...reason why i ask is because it is that im not 100% sure or that i dont understand the concept completely..thats why i ask
sucramdw
01-09-2005, 01:39 AM
If you dont fully understand something in one of the articles then thats a perfectly good reason to ask a question.
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It's more convenient to just ask and get an answer in 2-3 minutes than to spend 30 minutes looking for the answer to one question.
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Accept in this case which is why i posted the link to the sticky instead of answering the question, because its a creatine question. Concerning creatine it would in fact be easier to go to that sticky then wait for answers, because that creatine sticky isn't just a huge article but its basically a compillation of questions and answers about creatine concerning questions that are asked almost everyday. If this was a different topic i wouldn't be saying anything, but next time refer to the sticky
desperad0
01-12-2005, 08:41 PM
BUMP..i need some critiqueing from my diet...pllease because im reading the 13 weeks to fat burning and there are things i dont understand..is my diet good to go?
sucramdw
01-12-2005, 08:45 PM
It doesn't look too bad, cut out the milk. If you want a more accurate critique then post your diet with the measurements of foods. Like 1 cup oatmeal, 1/2 cup cottage cheese.
I would say more but i gotta take a shower....
Rewrite a more detailed diet layout. If you want an example, heres my diet critique - http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/forum/sho...ID=#Post1024452 (http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=1024452&page=0&sb=&o=&vc =1&PHPSESSID=#Post1024452)
desperad0
01-12-2005, 08:59 PM
that is your get big diet
this is my get cut diet
desperad0
01-12-2005, 09:05 PM
im gonna change up my diet than here it goes
critique this
1. oatmeal 1/2 cup whey 1 scoop (YES MILK NO MILK?)
+multivitamin, 5 gram glutamine, creatine
2. oatmeal 1/2 cup and whey 1 scoop
3. veggies with chicken breast, 1 gram flax seed, 1 gram salmon/fish oil
4. post workout meal whey + dextrose
+Creatine, multivitamin, glutamine
5. 2 cups leafy green veggies with salmon or chicken
6. 1/2 cup (22 grams protein)cottage cheese, half scoop of whey and 1 tbsp PB, 1 gram flax seed, 2 grams salmon +fish oils
sucramdw
01-12-2005, 09:54 PM
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that is your get big diet
this is my get cut diet
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I know, i was saying as an example of how to lay it out, not on the foods.
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