Paleolithic?

[Dmitri]

Many of you have seen my current diet, and I posted it on another board for other critiques and several people disagreed with many of the structures and staples of my diet. Someone instructed me to read about the Paleolithic Diet. This man is a heavy follower of it, and I was wondering what you guys though about it. Here's a link. http://www.panix.com/~paleodiet/
In case you were wondering, the diet I constructed from info at ABC isn't changing any.

All I raelly have to say is that I don't agree with many parts of it, but it has the right idea, and of course, is better than many of those fad diets out there, as well as the average person's diet.

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[rev]

Cliff notes?

[NeoIncubusX]

So people here don't support evolution? **Just a question**

[Coz]

From what I have previously read about the Paleolithic diet and forgeting for a moment about the basis for this diet. Besides the pwo shake how does this diet differ from what is advocated here at abc? I think the paleolithic diet is based on high protein and fats(meat, fish etc...) and plenty of fibers from greens, root vegetables and even wheat and oats in some.

If you find a sample of the diet post it. That link is too long to go through.

[JTiger]

Other parts of this site attack claims about creatine that are not built on sound science. Why not reconize evolution for what it is, a theory?

[NeoIncubusX]

aah thats how I like to think of it. A Theory... Yeah..

[Dmitri]

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The Paleolithic diet is based on the false assumption that human evolution took place. Therefore the diet is also false.

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Thanks Yu, that's exactly what I was thinking

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[Ultra Man]

joe, i was reading your "Evolution is a Religion of Blind Faith" and old school said evolution is a substitute for christianity. i believe in evolution, and i consider myself a christian. all that matters is God created the universe, and humans, human is human. the means by which we reached dont matter, all that matters is God created us, whether it was in 7 days, or in a pool of enzymes billions of years ago.

think about this, evolutionists believe, tool making led to apes becoming more human like. but, how does it make sense that an animal would choose to become less physically able and more intellegent. in nature animals are strong, and stupid. it makes no sense for a species to evolve to be weaker, and smarter. if you compare humans to there non human counterparts we are so physically weak. so how do we know that God didn't influence evolution, as it makes no sense to become weaker and smarter, fossil records show humans neared extinction many times. could this not be an act of God that we survived being so weak to dominate the planet?

my belief is that God influenced evolution, im not saying anyone else is right or wrong, thats just my belief on the topic.

now, the Bible says a different story, but what would be more acceptable to people of that era? evolution or genesis, clearly genesis. does that make the bible wrong? no, for all we know 7 days symbolizes billions of years, but God found people would more easilly understand 7 days than billions of years. Christianity barely survived, it started out with one old man and his wife in the desert, and they had a son(technically they were jewish i know). would christianity survive in that era if its staple was "we came from apes?" no, every christian would probly be killed and noone else would have converted adn the religion would've died had the bible contained evolution. How do we know God didn't tell a story one of symbolism and metaphor so that the religion could survive a more delicate time?? wouldn't that show God's involvment in all of this??

sorry for that, i dont mean to offend anybody, and again its just my warped view of things. agian, i feel everyone has a right to there own opinion and that makes the world a much better place to live in /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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[NeoIncubusX]

I dont like religious arguements (makes people mad at each other, and I dont want you to get mad at me) but isn't the bible not taken literally by some religions which are Christian, such as Catholic I think.(as in 7 days could have technically been 7 billion years or however long it took for humans).. I know technically not all religions think it should or shouldnt be taken literally... so that was just a question aimed at the things being said about the bible being false or not.. Not saying it is, cause it's not, but hopefully you know what I mean... I hope I didn't offend anyone or seem like I was challenging someone's opinions or religion, was only asking a question.

[Ultra Man]

according to creationism our world is about 5700 years old. a mitochondrial gene tree reviels modern humans lived 150,000 years ago. mitochondrial dna is passed through the mother, because the sperm jetisons its tail. so we only get mitochondrial dna from our mother. mitochondrial DNA has neautral mutations much more frequently than nuclear DNA. counting the mutations in mitochondrial dna show how long the DNA has been passed along. -Bryan Sykes Professer of Human Genetics, Oxford.

carbon dating of fossils also says otherwise.

continental drift theory says otherwise.

sure these are all just theories. but, what makes a theory legit? being able to predict time and time again based on a theroy.

ptolemey could not explain the retrograde motion of planets, he tried by adding what was called an epicycle, he was able to predict the motion of mars for a while, but as time passed his theories became incorrect. his followers began to add epicycles onto the epicycles, quick fix after quick fix. they still couldn't predict mars's motion. copernicous finally came out with the theroy of heliocentric cosmology. copernicous was still incorrect with his calculations. eventually keplar figured it out, the planets, including earth all orbit the sun in elipses, not perfect circles. and he was able to predict the motion of the planets with the equation:P2 = a3; P is the sidereal period (in earth years), and a is the length of the semi-major axis (measured in AU). that equation is still accurate today.

half life, mitochondrial mutation periods, and the rate at which the continents seperate, are consisten as there rates can be predicted. meaning, they are a realiable means of determining the passage of time. theres also the matter of the hubble space telescope seeing things billions of light years away.

again these are all theories but there are yet to be major discrepencies that I AM AWARE OF (there could be, but im yet to here)

being told by a website to take the Bible litterally isn't convincing to me. literal translation of the bible from hebrew doesn't mean it couldn't be an analogy. just because Yom means one doesn't mean it could be only one. the logic of analogy as defined by the dictionary: form of reasoning of parts dissimilar in structure and origin. therefore i can make the analogy of seven days=billions of years.

does that make me right? i dont know, thats just my way of seeing things.

and how can you be certain that whats in the Bible is the word of God? it was written by people. your capable of taking that leap of faith, faith is what its all about. i can't fully leap, so i guess i've sort of constructed a parachute for myself. i respect your ability to have full faith. i just don't know that i could. i believe in God, but i dont believe every part of the bible, though i do believe most of it.

[NeoIncubusX]

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and how can you be certain that whats in the Bible is the word of God? it was written by people.

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Divine Inspirtation...

I didn't read the rest. That just popped out at me.

I'm out, see ya.

[Ultra Man]

no you gotta read the rest, that quote makes me look like a Godless heethen, which is not the case!!

[NeoIncubusX]

I'm sorry, I didn't mean it like that. /forum/images/graemlins/frown.gif Like I said, I dont want people to be mad or anything.

[Ultra Man]

thats ok, i wasn't mad, i was jokingly acting frantic

[Adam Knowlden]

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according to creationism our world is about 5700 years old. a mitochondrial gene tree reviels modern humans lived 150,000 years ago. mitochondrial dna is passed through the mother, because the sperm jetisons its tail. so we only get mitochondrial dna from our mother. mitochondrial DNA has neautral mutations much more frequently than nuclear DNA. counting the mutations in mitochondrial dna show how long the DNA has been passed along. -Bryan Sykes Professer of Human Genetics, Oxford.


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Answer: http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4055.asp


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continental drift theory says otherwise.

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False. The most advanced theory of continential drift is Dr John Baumgardner catastophic plate tectonic computer model. He is a creationist and his theory supports a global flood.

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carbon dating of fossils also says otherwise.

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Dating methodolgies have several uniformitarian assumptions mixed in with them. Therefore they are not reliable unless one assumes long age axioms.

I hope you are not getting your arguements against creation from falseorigins.com.

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literal translation of the bible from hebrew doesn't mean it couldn't be an analogy. just because Yom means one doesn't mean it could be only one. the logic of analogy as defined by the dictionary: form of reasoning of parts dissimilar in structure and origin. therefore i can make the analogy of seven days=billions of years.


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False again. Hebrew literatary rules are not the same as those in the English dictionary. So your definition is a strawman. Moreover, that is terrible equivocation, and if you think that even comes close to dismantling the fact yom means one day, you are terribly mistaken. I recommend you do some basic studying before you come on here making fool hearty statements such as the above.

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being told by a website to take the Bible litterally isn't convincing to me.

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Being given these weak "proofs" of evolution is not even convincing, but rather laughable.

We have dismantled several well scholared evolutionists on this site. Study our bible study link before agrueing against us. We have tackled every one of these "evidences" your brought forward numerous times.

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and how can you be certain that whats in the Bible is the word of God?

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You are going off on about a million rabbit trails with this post. Fortunately, we've already answered that in our How to read the Word of God series in our bible study links. Read all those before you ask or critize the bible one more time. This site has a very strict rule regarding God. We are not going to be as lenient with this rule anymore as we were in the past, as we have answered all of these questions and categorized the links for easy searching. Again read all the bible study links before you mock the bible again

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it was written by people.

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Exactly, which is why the dead sea scrolls prove its insane translational accuracy over thousands of years, despite what the typical human trend should be.

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your capable of taking that leap of faith, faith is what its all about.

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Biblical faith is built on knowldege. Evolutionism is a religion of blind faith.

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i can't fully leap, so i guess i've sort of constructed a parachute for myself.

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You believe non-life came to life, despite all observable and emperical science. That is not even faith, that is blind faith. You believe information increases through natural processes, despite the fact that information never comes about aside from intelligent input. Again, blind faith.

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i respect your ability to have full faith.

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I hope so, your faith dwarfs the faith we have. You have a faith I admire and wish I had.

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i just don't know that i could.

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If you can believe you came from a rock, you can have faith in anything.

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i believe in God, but i dont believe every part of the bible, though i do believe most of it.

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That's nice you get to pick and chose, unfortunately what you have just done is broken the second commandment, which entails not creating a God to suit your own satisfactions.

Again read all the bible study links before you mock the bible again