This is a scam

[Cool Abe]

Check out this, for me, it's just another blatant nutritional scam:
http://musclegaintips.com/

First of all, nobody can put all that size in legs an arms in just 12 weeks, without adding at least 10 inches to your gut, LOL.

Also, this guys says he lifted for years and never saw any progress, and suddenly, he had the idea of following a 3700 cals / 250 grs. of protein a day diet, along with a wimpy routine he made (you will laugh at it when you see the amount of sets and volume he had), and voila.

Also, when I saw the diet this guy followed, he had about 2 Myoplex a day (about 90 grs of maltodextrin per day, not after workouts), and it seemed to me impossible that he didn't gain a new gut with that.

I guess this is the same as the Body For Life pictures in the website and in the books... the before and after pics are not truly 12 weeks apart, I'd say they are months or years apart.

I may be wrong and maybe I'm making prejudices, but, I want to know what do you members of ABC think of this? /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Ms Pipebomb]

I haven't seen his workout program........ but I don't think volume is always the answer to getting big. Low volume can make you grow alot. I would actually recommend low volume to alot of people on this site that have been doing high volume workouts for awhile.

[Coz]

This was posted before. The diet and training is a total joke. These ads just fish in the newbies.

[Adam Knowlden]

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The "Secret" They Don't Tell Us Skinny Guys

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He's still skinny /forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[MansonOzz]

14" guns, 39" chest. Yow /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif

[OUTLAW20SICX]

geez jose is the man
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Gained 27 lbs in 4 weeks!
"I finished my fourth week, I have gained 27lbs, this week I gained almost 6 lbs. I don't know why people take steroids, they should use your routine, this is amazing. Unbelievable, I am not that 130lb skinny guy anymore, I am confident in myself. When I am walking on the streets 110% of women stare at me!!! I am not joking man, this is truth, I even use shorts already -- something that I never used before. Anthony, I am changing, my body has changed incredibly, I feel healthier, I stopped smoking. In my first day I couldn't do any dips, now I can do 9 in a row. My chest has increased 4.25", my biceps 2", my calves almost 2", my upper thigh 2.73 inches."
Jose M., Mexico

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with the gains hes gettin he will have 80 inch arms in just a year
im signing up, wheres my credit card /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

[Cool Abe]

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Gained 52 lbs in 10 weeks!
"To update you, things are going pretty well at this point. I'm getting a lot of great comments from everyone that knows me about how different I look already...A couple of folks in the office said my arms got significantly bigger in just the last week (measurements say ½" on the biceps in that time, yes!). My weight bounced back on Wednesday and should be over 230 tonight, making a 32 to 34 lbs. increase in 6 weeks."

[4 weeks later] "Just thought I'd give you a 10 week update on my progress on your program. I maxed out last week at a weight of 250. That's a 52 lbs. gain from starting the program."
Glenn S., California

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52 lbs in 10 weeks... I guess how many inches did he add to his gut. Another "clean bulk" like this and he may start to work as Santa's double /forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

By viewing this and all the typical infomercials on TV, I'm starting to hate the deceitfulness of most people in this industry.

If I had the power, I'd prohibit all "lose fat" or "gain muscle" ads unless they can provide scientific data and unbiased tests backing up their claims.

[gold]

look at his legs, that did not happen in that shrt amount of time. i remember reading this site 3 years ago, when my buddies in highschool said they were gonna try his progrma

[Cool Abe]

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look at his legs, that did not happen in that shrt amount of time. i remember reading this site 3 years ago, when my buddies in highschool said they were gonna try his progrma

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Exactly, also look at his arms. First of all, I don't believe he could add all the lean mass to his arms in just 12 weeks. Also, I think the measurement is incorrect. He said he "increased" his arms to 14", but in the second photo, his arms don't look exactly like 14", I see they are around 16".

[EricTheViking]

*L* It is me or does his head look Photoshopped on in the 'before' pic?

[NeoIncubusX]

I was thinking the same thing. It looks VERY fake.

[Cool Abe]

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*L* It is me or does his head look Photoshopped on in the 'before' pic?

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Well, for me it doesn't looks like the picture was altered with graphical design software... but the 2 pictures clearly look like they are MANY months apart. Just look at size difference in legs and arms, repeat his "routine" 3 times and you will be the size of Ronnie.


Also, check out what I've find out:

He says he gained a total of 34 lbs, and dropped his body fat from 11% to 6.8%

That means an increase of pure muscle mass of 35.49 lbs in just 12 weeks... /forum/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

First of all, where the heck that extra 1.49 pound of LBM came from?
Secondly, tell me how 104.38% of the mass he gained was pure muscle mass without adding a single gram of fat...

Lastly, to gain that amount of lean mass in just 12 weeks, I guess he would have trained 3 times harder than Arnold, ate as 2 Ronnies and he must be a cyborg that creates lean mass on demand.

C'mon, he better tell those stories to his granny.

[Ultra Man]

it seems that he has the basics down. i still don't think theres such a thing as a hard-gainer. i dont like his whole meal replacement plan, with the powder of maltodextrin, and whey. thats a terrible meal, and should only be done PWO.

i think he's got an OK overview of BBing, but i wouldn't trust him for maximum gains.

[Derganc]

Ultra Man just sumed up what I think of it. But you gotta love how all his ads are to steroid sites though. /forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Xanatos]

Actually, I've had a chance to review Anthony Ellis's workout/diet routines. It's no different than what is told on bodybuilding websites. The only difference is that, instead of searching for the material yourself, Anthony provides a conslidated version in one little book.

Diet information:
Just tells the ratios to follow and the types of foods to avoid.

Workout information:
Tells the basic rep ranges to use for increasing strength and size.

Personally though, there's a 100% money back gaurantee. If it's crap, just return it and get your money back. I did watch the Body Of Works video (a long time back) and he was one of the winners of the contest setup by EAS. In it, he stated he was eating about 4400 calories a day. I don't know about you, but to get up to 165 and to be eating that much, it's possible. Especially if his average intake used to be only 1500 at his scrawny self.

But alass, to each their own. There's more than enough FREE information available on the internet.

[Cool Abe]

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In it, he stated he was eating about 4400 calories a day. I don't know about you, but to get up to 165 and to be eating that much, it's possible.

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In fact, yes, you can increase your weight by that amount in that time span. But keep in mind that by taking such a big amount of calories for that weight will most likely lead to substantial fat gains than muscle gains.

That's why I don't believe his pictures. If he had truly eaten more than 4000 cals and increased his weight in those 12 weeks, he would most likely have looked like Homero Simpson rather than someone fit and muscular.

I'd stick with the scientific information, facts, and results here on ABC rather than the information of someone whose whole intention is to sell you.

[Xanatos]

Yes, it is true that eating more than 4000 calories will make you fat, however, if it was a gradual increase then it's possible to have a clean bulk. Is it possible however for most people to have clean bulks the way he did? Doubt it.

[Ultra Man]

i consume more than 4000 cals a day, i haven't picked up any fat. i did around 5000, but i've actually lost some fat on 4000 /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[hou059]

I know I am pretty late with the reply on this post but I just joined. Yeah I have seen this guy before and I was kind of shocked as to how much muscle he gained in just twelve weeks. I mean I heard that gaining 15 pounds of pure muscle within a year is considered good and this guy doubles that in 3 months? I don't think so. /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[Cool Abe]

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i consume more than 4000 cals a day, i haven't picked up any fat. i did around 5000, but i've actually lost some fat on 4000 /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Then you have either an awesome metabolism or a higher weight than average people (height, body type, etc)...

I think it depends on your weight. While 4500 calories per day for a 135 lbs person would not be very advisable, if you have a greater height and weigh around 180-210 lbs then it would be perfect.

[Ultra Man]

yeah, i way 265 at 6'5''. about 18%BF

[mrintensit-matt]

He made pretty good progress but I think it took him longer than 12 weeks.