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Chest - bench press (with cushion on chest to keep elbows from acute angle)
Back - back squats or lat bar pull-downs
Shoulders - power clean or overhead press
Triceps - lat bar press down
Biceps - biceps curls
Midsection - twisting curls (universal)
Quads - leg extension, leg press
Hamstrings - leg curls, depth jumps
Calves - toe raises, heal raises
Forearms wrist curls, reverse curls
That is what we have to do twice a week in under 40 minutes. I guess we do 1-2 sets seeing we only have 40 minutes to do it. We switch up the reps (less for strength, more for speed.) Do you think this will be effective?
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Chest - bench press (with cushion on chest to keep elbows from acute angle)
Back - back squats or lat bar pull-downs
Shoulders - power clean or overhead press
Triceps - lat bar press down
Biceps - biceps curls
Midsection - twisting curls (universal)
Quads - leg extension, leg press
Hamstrings - leg curls, depth jumps
Calves - toe raises, heal raises
Forearms wrist curls, reverse curls
That is what we have to do twice a week in under 40 minutes. I guess we do 1-2 sets seeing we only have 40 minutes to do it. We switch up the reps (less for strength, more for speed.) Do you think this will be effective?
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Effective for bodybuilding? Not a very good routine.
Effective for baseball? No, not at all. You want to improve your baseball game, play baseball. Specificity has been discussed many times. You can try searching for it.
No man look, I have to do this if I want to make the team. I have to go to this lifting thing, it's not choice if I want to play. I was just asking if it will be effective in any way.
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No man look, I have to do this if I want to make the team. I have to go to this lifting thing, it's not choice if I want to play. I was just asking if it will be effective in any way.
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I understand that you have to do it but I answered you on how it will be effective. No, it won't help your baseball game and from a bodybuilding aspect it is a poor routine.
Well after we can do like 5 strict reps on a certain weight, we move up in weight, like 5lbs for instance on bench. It seems to be some what effective in bench as I've heard wrestlers that do this and they increase their 1RM considerably. I guess it works but I have no idea. I'll post again in a couple of months I guess and I'll tell you guys if it works. Who knows it could be the most obvious way to increase strength in a certain area.
Basstart
01-02-2005, 04:51 AM
Any weights/cardio you do will help. Improving strength and conditioning can only benefit performance.
As an ex-pitcher, I remember our routine focussed highly on legs, forearms and shoulders (lots of rotator cuff stuff).
Definitely keep on doing your routine.
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Well after we can do like 5 strict reps on a certain weight, we move up in weight, like 5lbs for instance on bench. It seems to be some what effective in bench as I've heard wrestlers that do this and they increase their 1RM considerably. I guess it works but I have no idea. I'll post again in a couple of months I guess and I'll tell you guys if it works. Who knows it could be the most obvious way to increase strength in a certain area.
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You can use a bowflex and make some gains...my point is it is not optimal! Of course you will see some gains at fisrt with a full body split twice a weeks but there are better ways. Just read this site and read the thread about splits.
As for it being effective in baseball...absolutely not. Read this article: http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/pseudo%20science.php
I know you have no choice but to do it...so do it. Read the information here so once you start training outside of school and can make your own rules you will know how to put an effective training program together.
What are yall talking about this is a good routine. Lower the weight do more sets at higher reps will increase your endurence which is for BASEBALL. I know cause thats what i do! It gives you speed when you lower weight and higher reps. It will increase your speed in swinging the bat and when running do cardio and still work out the legs in the same manner as above. This also workes good in boxing!
My bad I missed a part. You try building for endurance in baseball so you do more REPS!!!! Increases speed!!!!!
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What are yall talking about this is a good routine. Lower the weight do more sets at higher reps will increase your endurence which is for BASEBALL. I know cause thats what i do! It gives you speed when you lower weight and higher reps. It will increase your speed in swinging the bat and when running do cardio and still work out the legs in the same manner as above. This also workes good in boxing!
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I see you are new here, welcome aboard.
However, when stating an opinion you should be able to back it up with some scientific evidence. What you are saying is totally false. Did you even read the link I mentioned above?
Maybe you should start by reading this post: http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/forum/sho...true#Post996250 (http://www.abcbodybuilding.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=science&Number=996250&Sea rchpage=2&Main=996184&Words=specificity&topic=&Sea rch=true#Post996250)
I just realized the post I linked above is from the same original poster who started this thread, kind of makes you wonder if the advice people give is falling on deaf ears.
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I just realized the post I linked above is from the same original poster who started this thread, kind of makes you wonder if the advice people give is falling on deaf ears.
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Look, you cannot tell me Albert Pujols got as big as he is without lifting weights to be able to hit the ball that far. In fact a guarantee that he lifts weights to hit the ball that far. Tim Wakefield (1B turned pitcher) said, "Well Sophmore year I only hit 5 home runs but then after the season I started lifting weights and the next season I hit 22 home runs." I am not saying that lifting was the the whole reason he did that, I'm sure he practiced a lot too. But I know the lifting helped him, he said it himself.
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I just realized the post I linked above is from the same original poster who started this thread, kind of makes you wonder if the advice people give is falling on deaf ears.
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Look, you cannot tell me Albert Pujols got as big as he is without lifting weights to be able to hit the ball that far. In fact a guarantee that he lifts weights to hit the ball that far. Tim Wakefield (1B turned pitcher) said, "Well Sophmore year I only hit 5 home runs but then after the season I started lifting weights and the next season I hit 22 home runs." I am not saying that lifting was the the whole reason he did that, I'm sure he practiced a lot too. But I know the lifting helped him, he said it himself.
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Where are you getting this from what I wrote? No, you won't get big without lifting weights. If you want to be big...train, if you want to be a good ball player...play ball! You should still train for numerous other benefits but...lifting weights, especially at your level, will not help you hit a ball farther.
I don't care what he thinks made him hit the ball farther. What he is saying is not scientific evidence, there are too many variables. He could have trained harder etc... How do you know? Listen to the science behind it.
Anyways, this whole subject has been done to death and you have posted this before. Just read all the replies. I'm done here.
Well I was referring to my last post but let's put it this way. A 12 year old kid let's say 5'5 90lbs thats played baseball his whole life will not hit the ball as far as a 6'4 300lb man (let's say 10%bf just to put a number out there) that has been playing just as long and has been lifting weights for years assuming that they have developed the same mechanics. If the bigger man does not hit the ball farther, he definately has potential to hit the ball MUCH farther than the kid. Why? Because he is much stronger. Any of you disagree?
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I don't care what he thinks made him hit the ball farther. What he is saying is not scientific evidence, there are too many variables. He could have trained harder etc... How do you know? Listen to the science behind it.
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You just contradicted yourself anyway. Said he could've trained harder. Well if he trains harder, doesn't that mean that he probably got stronger? His bat speed probably increased meaning some muscle fibers controling his speed got stronger and faster. Bat speed, weight of the bat, and strength all play a part in how far the ball will go. Bat speed plays a bigger role than strength and weight but we could use a 10oz bat and generate bat speed of over 100 mph. But think if we use a 32oz bat and swing it 90mph (Barry Bonds and McGwire for example) the latter will make the ball go much much much farther. That is a known fact. If you want me to look that up, I will. I have read that before and been told many times and I have even tried it myself and it is true.
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You just contradicted yourself anyway. Said he could've trained harder.
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How in the world is that a contradiction? By training harder I mean practicing more and swinging a bat! WEIGHT TRAINING will not help your swing...SWINGING A BAT will! It is called SPECIFICITY for a reason. To improve at a certain event...do that event! If you want to run faster you can squat till the cows come home but you will get better results if you practice running. If you want to hit home runs...swing a bat. By all mean, weight train, but not for your goal of hitting home runs. You want to be a better golfer? Play golf. You want to be a better tennis player? Play tennis...and so on.
Yes...the elite level strength training may help to some extent. But it will not be the deciding factor. At YOUR level, it won't help you hit better at all.
Do me a favor and just read the link I gave you above. This is not my argument, it is science. You argue with me you are arguing with the scientific community and you have no basis for your argument.
mrintensit-matt
01-02-2005, 07:11 PM
Lifting weights has helped my baseball game aton. before I lifted I practiced hitting alot and I batted around 400. Now this past year I concentrated more on lax and lifted weights and my average was 500, my power was better and it helped my swing because I had more control with the bat and my bat swing improved. Yes playing baseball will definalty help but weight training helped me a lot too. If you want to be real good lift and play baseball.
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