I'm confused... (Hollywood's latest transformation)

[Swedish_Captain]

Well the latest Hollywood transformation appears to be Ryan Reynolds.

http://www.screencaptures.net/r/reynolds16.jpg


http://www.ryanreynolds.tv/bc005.jpg

http://www.ryanreynolds.tv/tgs4003.jpg

http://www.ryanreynolds.tv/menshealth002.jpg

http://www.ryanreynolds.tv/blade002.jpg

He transformed himself in like two months, and he had to lose fat too. He also mentioned being in the gym 3 hours everyday.

1) Isn't that overtraining?

2) How was he able to put on so much muscle while losing fat in 2 months?

3) It didn't sound like he ate 4,000 calorie or so meals everyday. Heck, one of his meals consisted of an apple and a piece of string cheese. I thought you had to eat alot more than that to get muscles like his.

4) Would the 24 mass workout/diet here on ABC Bodybuilding give similar results?

I'm just ticked off. I've been trying to get that look for years now and to no avail. I know it's impossible to look exactly like him and that genetics play a big part and all of that. I'm just wanting to have a build like his. Not to mention my body is kind of like his before he started working out (in the third image anyway. My arms look exactly like his). So I'm hoping similar results could be achieved.

Also, would you consider him bulked, or cut?


Also x2, one more thing. He said he did 500-1000 situps everyday before lifting weights. I haven't read any articles suggesting to get abs by doing it that way, but it sure seems to have worked...

[X-Factor]

You want abs? Cut. He is'nt really that big, good lighting low body fat percentage. If he's 5'10" I doubt he weighs more than 180, and I have'nt even seen his legs so he could be 160.

Also never follow a mens health or any fitness mags advice read the nutrition tab above. He prolly did'nt even get interviewed, it was most likely ghost-written. And I would'nt be surprised if he did a light cycle of AAS, he'll shrink in a bout 3 months.

P.S. stay away from sit-ups, they work mostly your hip flexors your abs are practically a stabilizer in the movement. Hell, over development of your hip-flexors could probably cause curvosis in your spine.

[TheMac]

not to mention he probably used a wack of sups with all the money they guy has. Plus personal trainers managing his workouts and diet..as for the 3 hours a day i doubt it was at the same time.

Newbie gains can lead to a fast transformation but they would not be as great a second time through for a guy like him. Think of the shock his body went through from nothing to 3 hours a day with the right nutrition ect...

[Swedish_Captain]

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You want abs? Cut. He is'nt really that big, good lighting low body fat percentage. If he's 5'10" I doubt he weighs more than 180, and I have'nt even seen his legs so he could be 160.


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So would I be able to geta body similar to that on the cutting routine here on the website, or the bulking program?

Honostly, that's exactly what I'm striving for.

[The Champion]

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You want abs? Cut. He is'nt really that big, good lighting low body fat percentage. If he's 5'10" I doubt he weighs more than 180, and I have'nt even seen his legs so he could be 160.


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So would I be able to geta body similar to that on the cutting routine here on the website, or the bulking program?

Honostly, that's exactly what I'm striving for.

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if you want to add muscle and lose fat, you will need to create a calorie deficit through physical activity instead of creating the deficit through less food consumption.

[Ultra Man]

he's really not that big, he cut, and got ripped. those arms really need work, delts, and pecs and abs look okay.

[rise]

the lighting on the last picture definately helps a lot. please remember that the movies know how to make a guy look good! the camera angles/lighting etc! I agree with what others said already, he doesn't really look that big. and I wouldn't be suprised if mens health did a little photoshopping of their cover models. If anything, his abs looked like they got bigger (perhaps due to the cut?)

[Floods]

Which movies has he been in before ? He looks strangely familiar.

[mrintensit-matt]

Dude just be patient and you will get awesome results. I always changed workout routines trying to get big and I stuck to the 24 workout mass blitz and I got good results. Also watch what you eat very closely. When I was around 11 I had a bad diet and was wondering why I wasnt gaining muscle. If you want to look like him you will probably have to cut or maybe if you are underweight bulk up. Follow some of the diets here and get a good rountine going and you will see results.

[Floods]

I don't get why abs are so important to guys anyhow. It's not like we walk around 24/7 without our shirts on... well, I think I speak for the majority when I say that. I would rather focus on a broad chest, shoulders and back combination, with impressive arms to boot. I'm more concerned for a V taper than a muscle group that'll hardly ever see the light of day.

[ByronSRU23]

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Which movies has he been in before ? He looks strangely familiar.

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He was in Van Wilder.

Honestly, Im not all that impressed. He's fairly lean, but he doesn't really have alot of size? Of course...whats small to one person could be big to another.

[mrintensit-matt]

Abs are very important for strength. Also some people just like to look good at the beach.

[ByronSRU23]

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I don't get why abs are so important to guys anyhow.

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Ummm...stability, support, posture, prevention of injury, and the list goes on. MANY injuries that I see in my fitness center at school occur because people neglect to work their core, yet are working heavy with squats, deadlifts, good mornings, bent over rows, or countless other exercises. Abs are one of THE most important muscle groups in the body for prevention of injury, not to mention good posture going into old age.

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I'm more concerned for a V taper than a muscle group that'll hardly ever see the light of day.

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Each to their own man. But I would much rather have a VERY strong core, enabling me to do heavier weights, with a reduced likelyhood of injury, then worry about a V taper. Its usually the guys worrying about that V taper, who hardly ever do direct abb work that end up herniating a disk in their lower back while doing heavy bent over barbell rows /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Crimson]

He was in Two Guys, a Girl, and a Pizza Place a while back as well.

And in the latest M&F (huge Arnald poster btw, it's worth it just for this) it talks about him as well. It said 2 hours every day and 3 or 4 months if I remember correctly. He had Jennifer Lopez's trainer and some olympic trainer too.

And yeah I noticed that too, he' has great abs and all, but his arms are'nt much and I doubt he has much with legs and back.

[SteveO]

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I don't get why abs are so important to guys anyhow. It's not like we walk around 24/7 without our shirts on... well, I think I speak for the majority when I say that. I would rather focus on a broad chest, shoulders and back combination, with impressive arms to boot. I'm more concerned for a V taper than a muscle group that'll hardly ever see the light of day.

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Hollywood can make a fat man look skinny

Like everyone has been saying a strong core is critical to building a strong body, strong abs and lower back are single handedly the most important areas of your body to workout. Not everyone aims to be a big guy, many people workout to get the look all the girls dig

[ByronSRU23]

And if you want to talk about one impressive Hollywood transformation (at least in my opinion)....I would have to say:

Edward Norton in American History X. Considering Edward Norton is a TWIG normally, he actually gained some DECENT size for that movie. Too bad he didn't keep it.

[MansonOzz]

Lowering your body fat gives the illusion that you are bigger than you really are. Of course, comparing the same "big" guy next to an actual big guy, you'll see the difference as night and day.

He's quite lean; definitely not BULKED. Anyone notice his 10" forearms? /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Floods]

I didn't write what I meant in my head /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I meant in terms of looks... the aesthetic side of things, rather than terms of actual strength.... like, is it not true if you JUST work your abs, and nothing else, eventually you'll have a hunched over appearance ? I meant to say, guys who spot train their abs, and it's all about abs, yadda yadda.

Sorry to have made you waste you time talking about core strength etc... I should've explained myself better.

[Floods]

No point in deleting that thread though... I already look like a noob /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[SteveO]

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I didn't write what I meant in my head /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

I meant in terms of looks... the aesthetic side of things, rather than terms of actual strength.... like, is it not true if you JUST work your abs, and nothing else, eventually you'll have a hunched over appearance ? I meant to say, guys who spot train their abs, and it's all about abs, yadda yadda.

Sorry to have made you waste you time talking about core strength etc... I should've explained myself better.

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yeah that's true, you need an even balance between your abs and lower back

[SteveO]

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He's quite lean; definitely not BULKED. Anyone notice his 10" forearms? /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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now that you bring it up... /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[ByronSRU23]

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I didn't write what I meant in my head /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Sorry to have made you waste you time talking about core strength etc... I should've explained myself better.

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No problem man. And don't feel bad, now that I'm done with college for a few weeks, I got PLENTY of time on my hands /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[ByronSRU23]

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He's quite lean; definitely not BULKED. Anyone notice his 10" forearms? /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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now that you bring it up... /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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Hehe, I JUST noticed that too. He probably has trouble picking UP the DB's that he benches /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[SteveO]

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Hehe, I JUST noticed that too. He probably has trouble picking UP the DB's that he benches /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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the 45's? nah

[X-Factor]

The problem with training chest too much is a hunched over appearance; being counter-producitve for a large chest. same with too much abs and no lower back; you get hunched over, these can become serious problems with time.

And to everyone who does'nt know ALWAYS train lower back when you train your abs, do some hyper-extensions, some lower back pulls on a seated row machine. Etc.

If you want to look like a celeb aim more for Vin Diesel look /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Floods]

Hah! Celebrities are so overrated.

[ByronSRU23]

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Hehe, I JUST noticed that too. He probably has trouble picking UP the DB's that he benches /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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the 45's? nah

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Hehe...I thought he'd have trouble with the 35's /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif...much less the 45's /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[Thunder_Bunny]

This has already been mentioned, but make-up can do wonders. Tanning and make-up are often used to help bring out six pack abs and even cleavage will be drawn onto an actresses chest to bring out the breasts.

It's hard to see these pictures and not compare yourself. But half the time what you see is temporary. Lighting, quick fixes, make-up and digital photography. And nobody can compare with that.

[MansonOzz]

Good call Thunder Bunny. Not to mention that in 6 months he'll likely go back to looking like he use to. /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[Swedish_Captain]

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"Not to mention that in 6 months he'll likely go back to looking like he use to."

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Actually, it already happened. He says he already lost his 6 pack and everthing. He's not working out or eating right or anything anymore.


Okay, lighting/digital effects aside, let's assume he really has a body like that. Now would I see similar results doing the cutting program, or the bulking program here on the site?

[Jedi]

That last picture is from Blade Trinity.
Anyway I think thats a pretty amazing transformation.
To get to that shape (in 2 months) is possible depending on where you start, but you must have a perfect diet and a perfect training plan.

[X-Factor]

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That last picture is from Blade Trinity.
Anyway I think thats a pretty amazing transformation.
To get to that shape (in 2 months) is possible depending on where you start, but you must have a perfect diet and a perfect training plan.

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Yup.

[MansonOzz]

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"Not to mention that in 6 months he'll likely go back to looking like he use to."

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Actually, it already happened. He says he already lost his 6 pack and everthing. He's not working out or eating right or anything anymore.


Okay, lighting/digital effects aside, let's assume he really has a body like that. Now would I see similar results doing the cutting program, or the bulking program here on the site?

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Cutting: Metabolising body fat
Bulking: Gaining size (muscle & fat - of which levels vary depending on variables)

Cutting will make you lean. Whether or not you look like THAT is dependant on whether or not your muscle groups are built like that underneath the fat.

[Revival]

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And if you want to talk about one impressive Hollywood transformation (at least in my opinion)....I would have to say:

Edward Norton in American History X. Considering Edward Norton is a TWIG normally, he actually gained some DECENT size for that movie. Too bad he didn't keep it.

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Ditto. Everytime I watch that movie, it makes me wanna work out because he really transformed himself after watching so many of his other movies, and that keeps reminding myself that I can transform like that. Plus, it helps me that I do look like Edward Norton /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

[mrintensit-matt]

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"Not to mention that in 6 months he'll likely go back to looking like he use to."

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Actually, it already happened. He says he already lost his 6 pack and everthing. He's not working out or eating right or anything anymore.


Okay, lighting/digital effects aside, let's assume he really has a body like that. Now would I see similar results doing the cutting program, or the bulking program here on the site?

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You just got to stick to. You want see big changes in one week but over time your body will change.

[ARK]

You guys are so negative... why can't we look at the positive side of things? Yes its probably the lighting, the celebrity trainers, the good diet, and more combined but the fact is that for a couple of months he made some nice changes to his body. After all isn't that what all of us are stiving for, to improve our physiques? Some of us want to get bigger than others and we shouldn't really hate on other ppl (and their 10 inch forearms) as long as they are working towards there own goals.

Of course, it what an earlier post said was true and he has let himself go since the movie, then shame on him. What a waste of effort.

[ByronSRU23]

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You guys are so negative... why can't we look at the positive side of things?

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I guess it might appear negative, because to many bodybuilders, the physique he achieved, is not very "impressive" by their standards.

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but the fact is that for a couple of months he made some nice changes to his body.

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He made some good progress yes, but nothing that a solid training routine, a solid diet, and a lean physique to start with couldn't give someone.

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After all isn't that what all of us are stiving for, to improve our physiques?

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Well, for BODYBUILDERS yes. For powerlifters like myself, its about getting STRONGER /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Some of us want to get bigger than others and we shouldn't really hate on other ppl (and their 10 inch forearms) as long as they are working towards there own goals.

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We're not "hating" on him. We're mearly pointing out some things that make his physique not very "impressive" in our eyes.

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Of course, it what an earlier post said was true and he has let himself go since the movie, then shame on him. What a waste of effort.

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Yes it is true. Shame on him yes, I agree. But it wasn't a wasted effort. He had to put some mass, and cut down, otherwise they would have taken someone else for the movie. So he achieved what he wanted.

[Bio]

StevO, although off topic, your stats for Bench with DB press, is it 120 each dumbell or 60x2 ?

thanks, jus curious

[SteveO]

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StevO, although off topic, your stats for Bench with DB press, is it 120 each dumbell or 60x2 ?

thanks, jus curious

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120 each, I'm doing 130x4 now (flat) 115x4 incline

[Bio]

awesome StevO, keep it up!

[bsimpson]

wow i hope i get there some time

[Jedi]

Speaking of transformations, I think this one (http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459236) is amazing too

[AnT-]

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Speaking of transformations, I think this one (http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459236) is amazing too

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omg 0 carbs in almost 5 weeks??? /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[NutMeg]

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Speaking of transformations, I think this one (http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459236) is amazing too

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omg 0 carbs in almost 5 weeks??? /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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and look at the supps he was taking... myeh





ps. I know I've used the "hardgainer" term when referring to ryan reynolds, but I thought it was more self-explanatory than ectomorph...

[Coz]

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Speaking of transformations, I think this one (http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459236) is amazing too

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Don't be naive, that did not happen in 14 weeks especially not on his diet and supplements. If the before and after picture is even the same person and unedited...it took him a while to achieve the after picture.

[Jedi]

Well T-mag is a serious website, I kinda doubt they would post something that would be so untrue. But who knows..

[bsimpson]

The pics are just taken in the most flattering way possible and I would bet that they where before cut and after cut pics

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I would'nt be surprised if there was some winny involved at 0 carbs /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif or maybe some MAG-10 /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

[rise]

I dont understand how he turned into Mr.Clean/Vin Diesel after 14 weeks.

[ByronSRU23]

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I dont understand how he turned into Mr.Clean/Vin Diesel after 14 weeks.

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Vin Diesel has a GOOD deal more mass then he does. He probably gained 15lbs of lean mass, which after 14 weeks with his build, is not that difficult.

I still don't get how people are so impressed by this?? /forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif

[SteveO]

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I still don't get how people are so impressed by this?? /forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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if you gain 15 lbs of LBM in 14 weeks and let me know

[Coz]

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I still don't get how people are so impressed by this?? /forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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if you gain 15 lbs of LBM in 14 weeks and let me know

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Seriously, 15 lbs of lbm in 14 weeks...ummm no way. I know people who have done cycles that didn't gain that much that fast.

[MansonOzz]

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I don't buy that T-nation story, either.

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didnt the chart on that article say that he gained 5lbs LBM at the end??? not 15.
Lean body mass

before
189lbs

after
194lbs

change
+5lbs

[ByronSRU23]

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I still don't get how people are so impressed by this?? /forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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if you gain 15 lbs of LBM in 14 weeks and let me know

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I've known several people actually who have gained 15lbs of lean mass in just under 4 months, without being on a cycle. High metabolism, very strict diet, and hard training.

Its not common, but its certainly not unheard of either.

[ByronSRU23]

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I still don't get how people are so impressed by this?? /forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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if you gain 15 lbs of LBM in 14 weeks and let me know

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Seriously, 15 lbs of lbm in 14 weeks...ummm no way. I know people who have done cycles that didn't gain that much that fast.

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COZ, no offense bro, but some of the guys you know that were on cycle either didn't know what they were doing, or their nutrition certainly was far from par. I know several people, one of them a close friend, who gained close to 18lbs of lean mass over a 13 week cycle. His metabolism was incredible though, he had to eat well over 6000calories a day to achieve that, but....it is VERY possible if you have the right cycle, and diet.

[SteveO]

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COZ, no offense bro, but some of the guys you know that were on cycle either didn't know what they were doing, or their nutrition certainly was far from par. I know several people, one of them a close friend, who gained close to 18lbs of lean mass over a 13 week cycle. His metabolism was incredible though, he had to eat well over 6000calories a day to achieve that, but....it is VERY possible if you have the right cycle, and diet.

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is this is body fat tested? I don't buy it, steroids add lots of water weight to you. 15 lbs on any cycle is unheard of (LBM). He could've been 18+ lbs heavier on cycle, but after post cycle I know he didn't maintain that weight.. no one ever does.

[ByronSRU23]

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is this is body fat tested?

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I know for a fact it is, because I was the one measuring his bodyfat.

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I don't buy it, steroids add lots of water weight to you. 15 lbs on any cycle is unheard of (LBM).

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Since I administered the bodyfat, and weighed him, I can say yes, he did gain water weight, but, he put on over 15lbs of lean mass also.

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He could've been 18+ lbs heavier on cycle, but after post cycle I know he didn't maintain that weight.. no one ever does.

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He finished his cycle at the end of the semester (december 1st)...After going off cycle, he lost 4lbs of water, which was mostly due to the deca he was running with his cycle. Other then that, he lost 2lbs of lean mass, before he left for his internship. Since then (about 3 weeks ago), he's put on 4lbs, but he hasn't had his b/f tested yet. However, he still says he is as strong, and vascular as ever, so we'll see if I run into him when he's done with his internship at the end of the semester.

The first cycle he ran, he put on a little over 12 lbs, and kept essentially all of it. So there's a good probability he'll keep it again this time also, but we'll see.

[SteveO]

well I guess he really lucked out and responds well to them, not everyone can pack on that much weight

[Coz]

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COZ, no offense bro, but some of the guys you know that were on cycle either didn't know what they were doing, or their nutrition certainly was far from par. I know several people, one of them a close friend, who gained close to 18lbs of lean mass over a 13 week cycle. His metabolism was incredible though, he had to eat well over 6000calories a day to achieve that, but....it is VERY possible if you have the right cycle, and diet.

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I never said they knew what they were doing /forum/images/graemlins/smirk.gif but I still don't believe an 18 lbs gain in lbm in 13 weeks. Total weight gain I believe.

[ByronSRU23]

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well I guess he really lucked out and responds well to them, not everyone can pack on that much weight

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I know, not really something I'd aspire to do "well" in if you want to call it that though. But yea, he definetly is the exception to the rule, I agree

[DaveLin]

It's not terribly hard to believe actually. The guy has decent muscle bellies in his bis/tris/shoulders, so a little work goes a long way. In other words, genetically, those particular muscles have good insertion points and potential, you can even tell in the "before" pics. Guys like that don't need incredible amounts of mass to look big, he just has natural shape, so dont be suprised if he's putting up less than you are.

Moreover, his trainer knew wat he was doing, he had most of his emphasis clearly on his abs, then the other more visible muscles, chest, shoulders, arms (that's what hollywood wants). Then he really pushed for the lean look, to make all those muscles stand out even further. I'm sure there was barely any attention put on muscles on the lower half of hte body or even the back. however, if you notice, the guy's got the narrowest shoulders i've ever seen. i'd think that since his shoulders are so narrow his chest is allowed to sort of balloon out more by virtue of less area to cover.

Overall, the only real testament to his physique is the conditioning. The conditioning really brought out his genetic high points, and moreover, if we believe he only worked out the muscles we can easily see in the picture, then we can assume that neglecting over half of your body makes it easier to beef up the rest

[Derganc]

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120 each, I'm doing 130x4 now (flat) 115x4 incline

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That's pretty crazy! /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[bigboi578]

stupid hollywood propoganda.....

[SteveO]

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120 each, I'm doing 130x4 now (flat) 115x4 incline

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That's pretty crazy! /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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not at all! my barbell bench has nothing to show for it.. I can only do 275x4

[ByronSRU23]

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120 each, I'm doing 130x4 now (flat) 115x4 incline

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That's pretty crazy! /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

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not at all! my barbell bench has nothing to show for it.. I can only do 275x4

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Wow, thats a suprise. One of my buddies does the 130's for 8, and his last set on flat is 365 for 6

[IronFuji]

Steve, my bb and db strength is like that too. I find it pretty weird.

[SteveO]

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Steve, my bb and db strength is like that too. I find it pretty weird.

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do you get pain in your shoulders on BB bench? This is probably the reason why for me, because I stick mainly to DB and cables

[Floods]

My friend who is anti anything even REMOTELY 'muscly' is fully disgusted by that T-nation article. It's funny, because the kind of guys she goes for (wait for it) are guys like Justin Timberlake, etc etc.

To ME that's gross /forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Oh, my friend is a girl by the way. In case the 'she goes for' didn't give it away /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Coz]

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My friend who is anti anything even REMOTELY 'muscly' is fully disgusted by that T-nation article. It's funny, because the kind of guys she goes for (wait for it) are guys like Justin Timberlake, etc etc.

To ME that's gross /forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Oh, my friend is a girl by the way. In case the 'she goes for' didn't give it away /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I can never understand girls like that. My sister goes for guys who look like telephone poles. Every one of her bf's were between 6'3" and 6'6" and weighed 160-175. /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I kept trying to give feed them whenever they would come over.

[Satch]

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My friend who is anti anything even REMOTELY 'muscly' is fully disgusted by that T-nation article. It's funny, because the kind of guys she goes for (wait for it) are guys like Justin Timberlake, etc etc.

To ME that's gross /forum/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Oh, my friend is a girl by the way. In case the 'she goes for' didn't give it away /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif

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I can never understand girls like that. My sister goes for guys who look like telephone poles. Every one of her bf's were between 6'3" and 6'6" and weighed 160-175. /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif I kept trying to give feed them whenever they would come over.

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HAHA!! You sound like my grandmother. If any of my friends come over she tries to feed them food. "I like to raise my boys big." I guess that's why my dad is 6'2 250 pounds.

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Steve, my bb and db strength is like that too. I find it pretty weird.

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do you get pain in your shoulders on BB bench? This is probably the reason why for me, because I stick mainly to DB and cables

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I'm not sure, I haven't benched in a bit. I think I used to, but after doing some rotator cuff work it got better.