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Adam Knowlden
06-19-2004, 04:11 PM
DOUBLE NEGATIVES



How to apply double negatives



Double negatives are performed on machines that allow the weight to be centered at all times during the lift. Thus, most cable movements and cable machines will work, along with some free weight movements that allow the weight to be centered. The centering of the weight allows the negative to be distributed to one side of the body evenly. This would be almost impossible with a barbell as the weight is on the ends and the bar would tip over if you tried to place the entire negative on one side of the body.



As for cables, I feel the rope attachment (same rope attachment you use for cable crunches) is the most versatile piece of equipment that can be used for double negative movements. The rope allows the negative weight to be distributed evenly on the body.



How do double negatives work?



Double negatives will super blast your muscles into new dimensions of size! They work because they literally shut down your bodies natural defenses to an overload of weight! They also subject the muscle to twice the amount of overload it could normally handle on the lowering portion of a lift.



For example, let’s say that you can do a 1 rep maximum of shoulder pressing with a 100 lb barbell. That 1-rep max is your 100% maximum power output. Now if you can stop and hold it statically (still/ not moving) in the fully contracted position, you're stronger! And if you can resist on the way down (negative) instead of just holding the weight still, you're even stronger! If the positive 1RM was 100%, then static is approximately 120% and negative is approximately 140%. Why is this? It's a defense mechanism of the body! If it was the other way around we'd be in some serious trouble! We'd be able to pick up a huge load and hold it above our heads, but once we're there we’d realize that we're too weak to hold it there and.….BAM!



It's a safety buffer to ensure that we can't pick up something we can't handle, and in the worst-case scenario we always have the power to give the weight a controlled descent back down. This is the key to why double negative training works! And this is also why you have to be both disciplined to do it safely. When I am performing double negatives, I always lower the weight with a slow 10 to 30 count. The exact time depends on how warmed-up I am, and how I want to vary the descent time. However, the main thing to remember is a slow and controlled descent. As opposed to sloppily and loosely dropping the weight too fast. Also stretch heavily, and perform one higher rep working set the regular way before doing any pure double negative sets. The reason why you must be careful is because by doing double negatives you are effectively tricking your body! Simply put, you override the safety by filling the buffer with extra weight, and forcing your muscles to work harder than other wise possible. The downside of this is exactly that - you override the safety limit! The upside is new muscle growth that will blow your mind! With all that in mind let’s discuss strategy!



Strategies for double negatives



As I mentioned earlier, my time of descent on a double negative can range from 10-30 seconds. I should mention however, instead of seconds I generally count the numbers out loud, slowly. This helps me focus more, and get my mind off the pain. I believe this time can not only prevent injury, but also is the ideal time to spawn muscle growth! For example, let’s take one of my favorite exercises to incorporate when I do double negatives, the rope pull down. To perform this exercise, attach the rope to a lat pull down machine. Begin with one warm up set to get a feel for the movement, and to get the appropriate muscles loose and filled with blood.



Now, comes the hardcore part. Do the rope pull downs with a normal weight that would allow you to get 8, 10, or 12 reps. As you pull down; concentrate all your power, into getting the full range of motion. As you get to the bottom of the range of motion and approach the negative portion of the pull down, begin allowing one side of your back to take the brunt of the negative. Even though you have both hands on the rope, you are allowing one side to take the greater amount of the negative pull, all the way back to the starting portion of the exercise. That is one full rep. Continue in this manner until you have given both sides an equal number of negative reps (This is the reason you should try to select a weight that will allow you to get an even number of reps before beginning the exercise, this may take some experience to estimate).



I like to vary my time for descent according to the amount of weight I use. For example if I was going for 8 reps in the above exercise, I would go for a longer 30 count descent, as opposed to a higher 12 reps, where I may go for a 10 count descent. For all those super insane hardcore lifters reading this….Yes, there are ways to make this principle more intense! The prime example would be to superset double negatives with just emphasized negatives. Let’s say I did a full set of double negatives using the rope pull down exercise example. After failure, I could cheat out reps and emphasize the negative using both sides of my back like a regular negative rep. Again going for a slow count, and fighting the pain with all the strength I could muster! Or, I could take it a step further and continue the double negative technique by stripping the weight and repeating the process! I like to call these strip-set double negatives! They are super hardcore and will light the muscle group you are working on fire!



Try the double negative approach with the following exercises! You’ll get a new definition of the word PAIN!



1. Tricep Dip - This only works at a tricep dip station. The reason is because you can brace your legs on the foot pad and balance your body easier. Try leaning more on one arm on the negative portion, then push up with both arms, then lean more on the other one, until you have completed a whole set! You’ll love these!

2. Machine Curl - Awesome for the biceps! You can also take a reverse grip and hit your forearms and outer bis. Beware! These are stretch mark makers! I recommend rubbing vitamin E lotion on your biceps after your gym session!

3. Standing Calf Machine or Toe Press- This will be more pain than most can endure, but the pay off will be cow-sized calves! If you want big calves go deep into the pain zone on these!

4. Leg Extensions/Leg Curls - You want super cut quads and hams? Try double negative curls and extensions! I have to warn you though; the pain zone will look like a honey moon suite when you get into these babies!

5. Rope Hammer Curl - If you want 3D forearm extensors these are a must!

6. Rope Curl - Simply grab the rope before it hasn’t been tensed by the weight. Now, using some of the slack, twist your wrist so that your palms are facing up. Hold them in this position throughout the whole movement.

7. Rope Tricep pushdowns - Same principle here, except keep your arms locked so the rope doesn’t move the whole time. In other words don’t splay the rope apart when you push or resist the weight. I like to alternate between a wide and close grip for these.

William Ustav
06-19-2004, 04:16 PM
Wow! That sounds actually quite intense /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif I might just try that /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Excellent post, Adam! /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif

bodybuilder120
06-19-2004, 07:08 PM
I'm goingto try those dips next tricep day.

hshafez
06-19-2004, 08:14 PM
I would like to try them but I dont think they are too safe. I can see potential for injury here if I dont do it properly.

Ratcat
06-19-2004, 10:22 PM
Thanks Old School. /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Adam Knowlden
06-20-2004, 12:28 AM
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I would like to try them but I dont think they are too safe. I can see potential for injury here if I dont do it properly.

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Yes they are an advanced exercise. If you're a beginner I would not suggest them. They're for those with highly tuned mind muscle connections.

MS LADY
06-21-2004, 08:41 AM
Thanks,

Today, is a chest and tricep day. It is time go go blast these muskles. I am so siked. Did I say I love you OS??? I was asking a trainer at the gym what could eb doen diff. to effect change in my body and the butt head simplky said diet. If he only knew how much I have changed it he would shut up.

LOve yah gotta go change for the gym and get the kids off to camp, and the baby to the gym nursery.

PsychoJr
06-21-2004, 10:21 AM
I tried this yesterday -- brutal...

President Wilson
06-21-2004, 12:40 PM
This is absolutely classic Old School. I was actually just reviewing many of your techniques yesterday

Adam Knowlden
06-21-2004, 12:51 PM
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Did I say I love you OS???

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LOL! Luv you too. /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif Good luck with your training goals! /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif

Steel Warrior
06-21-2004, 11:52 PM
These should be at the core of your calf program in my opinion. Nothing allows you to fully tax the calves hidden strength like these do!

Adam Knowlden
06-22-2004, 12:14 AM
I agree GenX.

If you want to really kill your calves, use the double negative approach and combine it into the 60 second shock.

It will feel like someone is twisting a dagger in your calves!

new
06-23-2004, 05:48 PM
very, very nice...old school your workouts/terchniques keep me motivated and keep my body guessing... just sayin thanks

later

Adam Knowlden
06-23-2004, 08:24 PM
No problem bro.

WatchTheHands
06-24-2004, 02:39 AM
Gotta say, these were awesome on machine preacher curl. I also added dropsetting to these double negatives; my arms were pumped up 3/4 of an inch by the end of the fairly short workout! Good stuff, Old School! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Phatdaddy308
06-25-2004, 01:00 PM
Sounds wicked! I am gonna try it on my biceps today. Now it is time to focus on the pain I will soon face.

Adam Knowlden
06-26-2004, 11:19 AM
Pain is an understatement bro! These are awesome for catching up on a lagging arm.

I believe one of the main reasons say, your right arm is bigger than your left, is via hyperplasia, from using one arm excessively all your life.

This method directly trains for inducing hyperplasia. My left bicep caught my right in no time with this method.

However, I would do say two handed curls and let my left arm take all the negative. This way both bis were being worked, but the left was being throttled!

So those with a lagging "side" try this method!