what the heck is wrong with ppl

[cripp62001]

I dont' get it. This guy I "workout" with. He only comes in about 1 time a week and will fight with me about it until the day he dies. I told him that he is wastign time coming in only one time a week and he thinks different. On top of this, the other night he tells me that he wants to get bigger and stronger. I then proceed to tell him about what has to be done and he butts in and starts telling me that he isn't doing this or that. Ppl want the gains but are not ready to do the hardwork for it. So now I workout by myself but I wish I had someone that was into it as much as me. I knew alot about lifting weights anyway, but then I found this site and learned so much more of things that I didn't even knew exsisted.

[Schlyder]

Everybody want's to be a bodybuilder, but no one want's to lift some heavy *** weights=)=)=)

[Schlyder]

I have one of those in my town also....it's a pain in the ***!

[given_to_fly]

he'll realize soon that he hasn't gotten any bigger and then he'll come to a point where he realizes you were right or maybe he'll just continue on his naive path. best of luck to him.

[The Runner]

I too work out alone, forget him. He'll come back when he sees you all jacked up!!

[WeaponX]

I workout alone also and it sucks at first but you get used to it. It is frustrating but you can't let the actions of others affect you.

By the way Cripp, nice 40 time what position you play? (As a rule only football players know their 40 time so I am going out on a limb)

[Satch]

Read the signature. That is my bodybuilder oath. I don't workout well with others.

[Arkades]

There's this fat kid where I live, he acts like he knows everything, but all his facts are wrong...
Once he asked me if I knew of a good 3 days a week routine, and I asked him why he wouldn't stick to his current 4 day routine. He said that he led a too busy life, so I asked him what he's so busy with. School, he says. (Oh come on, school's only 6 hours aday, and homework shouldn't take much more than 1 hour, right? If this guy put half the time he puts into playing computer games, he'd have time to workout, and spend 3 hours doing nothing.
While I'm at it, this guy also drinks vanilla on a daily basis, it's sad, but true.

Edit: I forgot to mention that he actually said he couldn't be arsed to go to the gym so often...

[iMToMMy]

he wont see anything and will complain

[cripp62001]

I played FB. We ran the wing-t and if you know a little bit about the wing-t the fb should be the best player. Where as in something like a I formation the Tailback is the key guy. In the wing-t the fb would only have 2 assignments, catch and run the ball. No blocking. My favorite play was called the 31 trap and 32 trap. Done correctly there would be a lane open up in the middle of the field and I had the speed to hit the holes quick enough that the LBs would still be waiting for the snap of the ball. I tried Wing back(in a wing -t the Tailbacks are called WingBacks) I never could run the ball outside. I either ran too far, or got tackled in the back field. I can only run straight up and down. I managed to get the nick name. "The Bull" because we played this one team that everyone expected us to lose to, and sure enough we did 24-0. But the player on their team we talked about all week was the big Middle LB. On one occasion I lowered my head and ran right over him. THe newspapers called me "the bull" and it stuck with me ever since.

[iMToMMy]

haha nicethats good people recognized that

[Pacman]

Do you still play? With those numbers a coach would find a place on the field for you somewhere...

[lean_nmean]

Ppl rely too much on pills etc.. and do not want the dedication of the weight training. I have seen and heard it alot and I just say whatever. They can keep dreaming and fantasizing.

[WeaponX]

Yeah, I know a bit about the wing T. We ran alot of Power I and option, though we would open it up alot down field. I played FB as well but was best known for playing MLB, I had been given the coolest nickname by one of our papers. They called me "The madman of the midway", I was literally known for having little to no regard for my own safety and just trying to destroy everything on the field. Unfortunately it eventually caught up with me and ended my career, live and learn huh.

[cripp62001]

About the time Coah Du'Bose (SP?) and Ronnie Contrell (recruiting coah) all got fired from the University of Alabam is about the same time I got hurt. I really was down and out from the injury and didn't know if I could make a come back. I gave up and just accepted the fact that I couldn't do it. a year and half later I decided to get the surgury done and get back on my feet. I still want to play but I am afraid to put my body throuh it again for fear of getting hurt all over again. I never played Defense, I always got juked out of my cleats. I just couldn't make a tackle.

[WeaponX]

Lateral speed is tough (that is mostly what it takes to make tackles). I use to struggle with those little scat backs who were quicker than a hiccup, but it gets easier. Though I did live in fear of being juked on an open field tackle.
Highest complement I ever received. I was doing some coaching at a local high school and the OC from a team I had played against in college was coming to coach at the same high school as me. He remembered me (from 6 years earlier) and said "I altered my entire our entire offense when we played against you so none of my guys had to go over the middle. We had watched film and I saw what you did to people and there was no way I was going to send anybody near you, you were supernatural."
I remember that verbatim it was the most flattered I had ever been and was also the first time I realized how much I missed playing.

[lineman60]

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I played FB. We ran the wing-t and if you know a little bit about the wing-t the fb should be the best player. Where as in something like a I formation the Tailback is the key guy. In the wing-t the fb would only have 2 assignments, catch and run the ball. No blocking. My favorite play was called the 31 trap and 32 trap. Done correctly there would be a lane open up in the middle of the field and I had the speed to hit the holes quick enough that the LBs would still be waiting for the snap of the ball. I tried Wing back(in a wing -t the Tailbacks are called WingBacks) I never could run the ball outside. I either ran too far, or got tackled in the back field. I can only run straight up and down. I managed to get the nick name. "The Bull" because we played this one team that everyone expected us to lose to, and sure enough we did 24-0. But the player on their team we talked about all week was the big Middle LB. On one occasion I lowered my head and ran right over him. THe newspapers called me "the bull" and it stuck with me ever since.

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Wing-t when properly run can be a very dangerous offense. But it is one of the hardest offence schemes to get exactly right. The guards ALWAYS lead to the play and that's the reason why you kept getting tackled in the backfield.

Although the trap can cause some serious damage if the defensive lineman get blown off the line by the pulling guard. That's the play one team we faced ran all night against us because we couldn't stop their guard.

[Fandango]

this is an interesting post because it went from talking about a gymbocile to football. that's a good thing for me because i play football too and have hopes on starting the Varsity team next year. i'm trying to get bigger and faster so i can play lineback but i might end up playing safety because we will have 3 seniors at linebacker next year. and the guy that is in my spot right now will likely make all-state. so needless to say i'm gonna need to step it up or get faster so i can play safety.

[President Wilson]

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Ppl want the gains but are not ready to do the hardwork for it.

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True. Unfortunately, many will also only apply themselves in one area. They may train hard, but then lack in the psychological aspects of the sport, or nutritional aspects.
The psychological aspects are often the most neglected however. It amazes me how many people neglect training their minds, when self regulatory skills can cause such incredible gains,

[WeaponX]

I agree with President Wilson, the work that goes into bodybuilding or any sport is in my opinion as much mental as it is physical.

Fandango. What are you doing to improve your speed?

[andrew3000]

i got this from frank zane website, i think it is a real good tool to use:

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BODYBUILDING EQUATION

Success in bodybuilding can be expressed as an equation: Progress toward your goal is the product of exercise (the quality of your workouts —Did you get a pump?), attitude (Are your thoughts, words, and actions leading you in the direction of your goal?), relaxation (Were you able to relax during the day? Did you get enough restful sleep?), and nutrition (Did you eat quality foods? Did you take your food supplements?). G = E x A x R x N is the Bodybuilding equation. G is your measure of success toward reaching your goal, and E, A, R, & N are the variables of the equation. Rate yourself from 0.1 to 1.0 on each variable every day by asking yourself "how good was my exercise, attitude, relaxation, and nutrition?" Then multiply the four numbers. Suppose your ratings were 0.9, 0.8, 0.7, & 0.9 respectively. Your score is 0.45 or 45%, meaning you are making less than half the total effort required to reach your goal. Maximum progress is a score of 100%.

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[Fandango]

WeaponX right now i'm playing lacrosse to help with my speed an endurance a little bit. i'm also lifting weights especially my chest, arms, and of course... legs. right now i'm doing the 8 weeks to bigger chest and the 8 weeks to bigger legs workouts. what do you reccomend doing because even if i do end up playing linebacker next year you cant even be too fast.

[cripp62001]

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nutritional aspects.

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you have that 110% right. These idiots dip, smoke, pop pills and drink like its all going out of style adn then they point the finger at me and say that I am using roids, thats why I benched so much more than them. What a bunch of REAL LOSERS.

[Fandango]

^^ bump ^^

[EarlGrey]

Ignorance is the worst enemy of all.

[WeaponX]

Fandango: To really improve your speed you need to challenge your body, push it past it's limits. Prior to my knee injury I was viewed as a freak. I was running a 4.5 at 265. Here are two simple things for improving speed that worked wonders for me.
#1 Sprinting up a hill. It is like sprinting against resistance and once that resistance is gone you are suddenly faster. I would also do this backwards, it improves balance and makes back pedaling in coverage easier and more natural.
#2 Sprinting down hill, aka overspeed training. This is difficult and you may fall a time or two. Basically you are training your body to move at a speed faster than it's comfort zone. I would integrate this with suicides and cone drills to improve your change of direction and lateral speed.
Also if you want to play LB add some cleans into your routine to improve your explosive movement. Change your lifting pattern on all exercises to this; on the lift go for explosive movements bring the weight up fast and hard and on the negative movement really slow it down and focus on controlling the weight. This again is very practical for the position it teaches you to explode through resistance but also teaches you to resist force (the negative). Trust me I could go on about this all day but if you have any questions feel free to ask.

[Fandango]

alright thanks WeaponX. thanks. how often do you suggest doing the hill sprints? on leg days? everyday or what?

[WeaponX]

It is one of those things you really can't do enough. Once you start playing in college and (knock on wood) if you ever make it to the NFL you will have to begin grueling 2 a day training and that is essentially torture. 2 a days are overtraining and the people who do well in them are the people whose body has adjusted to overtraining. When I was preparing for NFL combines I intentionally overtrained for 6 weeks to prepare my body (I know there are going to be people who disagree with this) for the stress of training camp. I was training twice a day 3 hours at a time to get myself ready, it wasn't fun but I have several friends who play in the NFL and this is how they told me to prepare.

[Fandango]

well thanks for the advice but i'm not really planning on going into the NFL. i mean i'm pretty good but i'm not like NFL-material.

it's convenient cuz we have a hill right outside of the weightroom that i lift at. doing 5 runs up and 5 down, how does that sound?

[dajt]

I have a similar problem with my workout partner. He wants to get big but he does not follow a play he just lifts. Some times he does the same exercise as me but he exercises his cheat and biceps like 3 times a week. I try to tell him that his muscles need time to heal and that he would see more gains if got more rest. On top of that he almost refuses to keep his back straight (I’m very close to stop correcting him altogether, I’m not going to nag him every workout). Then he gives me the excuse that he can’t workout today because his back is soar.
His defense to doing chest so much is that he used to have a big chest and he got it by going 100’s of pushups a day so why shouldn’t he do bench press all the time.

On the football note, before I played football I played basketball. When I played football in high school I was 6’1” 190lb on a small team so I was slotted into Center.
When I finally got switched to defense I dislocated my shoulder so I stopped playing football to concentrate on basketball. I now play football every Sunday and my skills from basketball have really helped in football. People are amazed at my cut and deeking speed.

Try this to increase your speed.
Speed And Acceleration drill for Sports
by Jacob Wilson

[WeaponX]

I would do more hill runs, also I would incorporate running backwards up the hill then sprinting down it. It is a great calf, butt, and hamstring workout.
I usually did mine until my body told me it was time to quit.

[Fandango]

well when you say your body told you to quit, would puking count? cuz i come close to puking almost everytime i do legs.

[amerkazmoswantd]

hey cripp man my highschool runs a wing-t also and I play FB too. Now thats a coincidence man. I'm only a freshman now but I'm hopin for a chance to play some varsity next year, being that our starting FB is graduating.

Anyway, i know exactly what your talkin about with kids bein stupid. Some "friends" of mine are idiots and think if they take protein and workout like twice a week then they'll get big. After hearing all the stuff they say I don't give them any advice unless they ask, it's their fault for being incompetent.

[cripp62001]

Yeah, these guys thing they can workout 1 time a week and get big. One guy went so far as to tell me that I don't need to worry about cals to lose weight, just eat lots of protein. The same guy told me that I can take all my supplements and he will take none, and he will be bigger and stronger than I. I am no stranger to lifting weights, neither is anyone in my family plus you can't compete with someone on supplements. This guy is an idiot.

ABout you playing FB. Here is some advice. Make sure you are very quick hitting the holes. Don't worry about if the QB will have enough time to turn around and get you the ball, I never did. The quicker you get to the line the more advantage you have over the DL and LBs. Don't rais your shoulders until your past everyone. Then its just a footrace. I have open field speed as well as hitting the hole quickness. But If I had to choose I would take the quickness of hitting holes. YOU may get caught from behind but it wo't be until the Defense realizes that your already blown right past them. The trap play is 99% hitting the 1 and 2 hole as fast and as hard as you can. The QB and pulling guard should worry about getting out of your way. If you hit the hole quick as you can, I garuntee you that you will be the most talked about FB about how to stop him. Its all about hitting the hole quick. The trap play is designed that way, if run right (depends on your coach) a lane big enough to drive a 747 through will open up and from there is just a matter of speed. Down and belly plays are good plays as well but trap is the FB bread and butter.

[Andrew G.]

Im planning on playing Football next year and I really need to build up my speed, I'm going to start incorporating hill sprinting as soon as possible... im a big boy (not fat really) and I need to be able to move!!

Plan on playing Defensive Line.. but thats not for sure.

My stats right now:

Age: 18 (BD is in October)
Weight: 272
Height: 6'4
Power Clean: Roughly 220-225
Squat: 330 (ugly, gota figure out my weakness, working hard at it though)
Bench: 300 (ugly)
Deadlift: 445
40 yard dash: 5.0 - 5.3 (havent timed in a while)

[jason213]

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Ppl rely too much on pills etc.. and do not want the dedication of the weight training. I have seen and heard it alot and I just say whatever. They can keep dreaming and fantasizing.

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I know what u mean. I know people who take diet pills every day, then they sit on their a$$ and drink 3 coke's a day and complain about not losing weight. These are also the ppl that refuse to listen to anyone.

[budman2002]

I know exactly how you feel. My workout buddy is the same way. Plus, he always makes fun of me saying I'm OBSESSED with weightlifting and I have no life. Well, the way I feel, is if you like to do something, do it the best you can!

[BrothaMan325]

every village has its idiot!! stay motivated. the proof will be clear when he sees you in the locker room and you are obviously bigger.

[Last_Three]

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and homework shouldn't take much more than 1 hour, right?

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It depends on the class, for me i have less than that. However, my brother has over 3 hours minimum, yet he is a bodybuilder finding 2 hours a day to go to the gym hmmmmmm /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[BisonAthlete]

k, you guys view the stats below and tell me some stuff... i have huge goals and i would absolutely LOVE to have some good advice thrown my way:

8th Grade
Thirteen Years Old
Tailback
5'8 & 1/2
Bench: 175 (goal 200)
Squat: 225 (goal 275)
Deadlift: 245 (goal 310)
Powerclean: 135 (goal 175)
40 time: 4'86 (goal 4'6) <-- I ran a 5'24 last year sadly...

We're running a no-huddle Wing T over here and i'm absolutely outstanding when it comes to running the ball. Im mostly known for my speed and practically perfect motions/fakes. Each play i give a complete 110%. I go four times a week, for an hour and a half to the weightroom to lift some weights (occasionally i go five!) I'm mostly about building strength and getting bigger. My food-plan mainly consists of nutrients and i really never drink Coke or anything of the sort, usually only water/gatorade.. Our coaches have been replaced and thankfully it was my first year and there's too... Guys, I am extremely grateful for any advice you can give me, all i'm looking to doing is going all the way and giving it no less than my best. I'm very competitive and i dont lift weights and play football with my mind, but with my heart..



"My mind is whipped into shape, and my body follows"

[BisonAthlete]

By the way Andrew G, Ed Coan there has a horrible form, see how he is leaning forward? okay so he's got about 1003 lbs on his back but still!!! Good form/technique comes before more weights!

[Coz]

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k, you guys view the stats below and tell me some stuff... i have huge goals and i would absolutely LOVE to have some good advice thrown my way:

8th Grade
Thirteen Years Old
Tailback
5'8 &amp; 1/2
Bench: 175 (goal 200)
Squat: 225 (goal 275)
Deadlift: 245 (goal 310)
Powerclean: 135 (goal 175)
40 time: 4'86 (goal 4'6) &lt;-- I ran a 5'24 last year sadly...

We're running a no-huddle Wing T over here and i'm absolutely outstanding when it comes to running the ball. Im mostly known for my speed and practically perfect motions/fakes. Each play i give a complete 110%. I go four times a week, for an hour and a half to the weightroom to lift some weights (occasionally i go five!) I'm mostly about building strength and getting bigger. My food-plan mainly consists of nutrients and i really never drink Coke or anything of the sort, usually only water/gatorade.. Our coaches have been replaced and thankfully it was my first year and there's too... Guys, I am extremely grateful for any advice you can give me, all i'm looking to doing is going all the way and giving it no less than my best. I'm very competitive and i dont lift weights and play football with my mind, but with my heart..



"My mind is whipped into shape, and my body follows"

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Please start your own thread. This is an old post from 2004 that you re-awakened. Welcome aboard.

[Mavrick]

haha yeah, a bump post from 04... BUT! saw somthing intresting so ill post to...
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About the time Coah Du'Bose (SP?) and Ronnie Contrell (recruiting coah) all got fired from the University of Alabam is about the same time I got hurt. I really was down and out from the injury and didn't know if I could make a come back. I gave up and just accepted the fact that I couldn't do it. a year and half later I decided to get the surgury done and get back on my feet. I still want to play but I am afraid to put my body throuh it again for fear of getting hurt all over again. I never played Defense, I always got juked out of my cleats. I just couldn't make a tackle.


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Cottrell is the head coach at my school now...CHS

[Selffortress]

I work out with a spotter. It's amazing. He's mostly all natural. Big on meat. And willing to learn how to lift properly. I've been working out with him for over 1 year. The results are amazing for both of us. I work out with him 3-4 days per week. And then once by myself (alone time) /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif