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How did you become so involved in the bible and such? I know a kid who's hardcore about church as well and in a way i envy him. How did you guys come around to becoming such big-timers?
PsychoJr
09-17-2003, 12:33 PM
There are lots of ways to grow:
- marry a godly woman
- get into a Bible study or small group
- find a Biblical topic to explore
For myself, I have done 2 things in the last number of years that got me into the Bible. 1) I was selected for a local leadership forum of business executives that met for 2 years. We had prominate leaders/authors such as Gordon McDonald speak to us, we had a mentor, and we were in small groups. 2) What God has to say about money interests me, so I've been involved heavily in Crown Ministries www.crown.org. (http://www.crown.org.)
RichW
09-17-2003, 12:43 PM
Below is the faith statement I gave at my Church. It is very personal to me but I decided to share it so you can see where I have been and how I came to where I am today.
Wether you agree with what I say or not isn't relevant. Everyone has thier own road to travel and their own decisions to make. This is mine:
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I guess if you had asked me in the past if I were a Christian I would have answered “Yes”! After all, I wasn’t Jewish and I wasn’t an athiest so I guess that made me a Christian. Right? I had been to Church as kid and I believed all that Church stuff. Well, God has a way of bringing us around to his way of thinking!
If you ask me about those days now (I like to call them the prodigal years!) I would say I was a believer but not a follower.I still partied and fooled around and did just as I pleased, never thinking about God or his plan. Some might ask “Isn’t believing enough?” Well, if I believe I-85 will take me to Turner Field but I decide to follow 285 I’ll never get there! <font color="blue"> (For those who don't know, I-85 runs north and south through Atlanta and Turner field is right off of 85. 285 is the perimiter and goes in a circle aroune the city.) </font> I, like many others, believed what I was taught as a child but decided to choose the way of the world over what I believed. I spent many years going around in circles following the route the world suggested and ignoring that still small voice saying “no, follow me”. That voice kept getting louder and louder finally screaming at me disguised as the cry of a little baby girl. My baby girl; born 3 months early and clinging to life. We were told all the complications that we would have to deal with and we were scared. However God had another plan! She had no complications and instead of being in the hostpital for the three months we were told she would be, she came home after only 3 weeks! When I witnessed Gods miraculous gift of love in my daughter I could no longer ignore him. But that was just the beginning. My wife was raised Presbyterian and the few years I had spent in Church growing up were Baptist. I was not about to go to some liberal Presbyterian Church, no siree Bob! Well, God had a different plan. I had been praying about it and I was told that where two or more are gathered in my name I will be there among you. Basically saying “ you just go where I tell you, I’ll meet you there”! So, I ventured into Parkway Presbyterian Church and things have never been the same since. I have learned so much since coming to Parkway. I guess the main thing I have learned is that I still have a lot to learn! God is truly at work in our Church and I am honored and awed that he has called me to be a part of his work at and through Parkway. I’m blown away by the fact that the creator of the universe not only knows who I am but that he loves me, listens to me and wants me to work with him! When I was aked to serve I prayed about it and asked God for a sign. I asked for one that would be hard to miss because I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed and I wanted to be sure! Well, I got an answer all right! I was wrestling with the fact that I am not where I thought I should be in my walk and I still had some issues I had to deal with. Notice how many times I said “I” and not God! A friend asked if I was going to help with a certain project I had been asked to do for the church. I said I was in prayer and thinking but, I explaind my reservations. My friend said “so let me get this straight, in order to serve the Lord you have to know everything and be sin free? Well, you let me know when you get there, meanwhile I’ll be doing what God wants me to do imperfections and all”! Well, there was my answer! God knows I’m not perfect (none of us this side of glory are) and he knows I don’t know everything (only he does). So, God chose imperfect me to do his work and I choose to give my life to him, to serve, to grow and to learn.
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junfan68
09-17-2003, 01:27 PM
I certainly wouldn't describe myself as a "big-timer", whatever that means, unless that means a fully devoted follower of Christ.
For me, it started with submitting to God. Surrender. The term "submit" has negative connotations to alot of people. I like to think of submission in terms of the analogy of the mighty stallion.
When the mustang or stallion submits, he is really letting himself be controlled by the hand of a loving master, and under this guidance, he will be able to accomplish things he never could have dreamed of doing alone.
And after that, it just comes down to wanting to learn more about God's word, and the Holy Spirit is with us to help guide our thoughts and actions. Spending time in the word, and being connected with other believers is what I suggest.
William Ustav
09-17-2003, 01:38 PM
Only one true way in my eyes - Start reading the Bible, and the bible studies here on ABC!!! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
schless
09-17-2003, 01:50 PM
For me it was kicking and screaming! I was raised in the church, Sunday school, all that stuff. Pushed it aside later. Found it again, in a different, non-church way. Then married a man who was a big time church goer. So I went every Sunday, kicking and screaming, and being all ticked off about it. But yet, over time, God and the Holy Spirit grabbed hold of me while I was sitting in church. Before I knew it, I was actually looking forward to going. Then I was in Bible study. Then in daily study, devotion, and prayer, and feeling I couldn't get enough of it! And it just snowballed from there.
Today it is absolutely THE MOST IMPORTANT thing in my life. I do several Bible studies a week, go to church, tend to my devotional and prayer life, etc. All through God's grace. I just sat there long enough (I didn't even have to be "willing") and he scooped me up and pulled me to him without my even knowing it! He's an awesome God!
William Ustav
09-17-2003, 01:51 PM
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He's an awesome God!
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lol, so true!!! /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
GodsGladiator
09-17-2003, 02:20 PM
John3:33
Those who believe him discover that God is true.
Psalms 118:8
"It is better to trust in the LORD than to
put confidence in man."
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I had so much sin in my life when i returned to church, they played a song called "And God Ran" a little story of someone like me, once a christian but then turned his back on his God and returned to see God running toward me with open arms rejoicing that i have returned, and i started to cry and he wiped the tears from my eyes and said son, do you know i still love you. As it caught me by surprise, brought me to my knees, when God ran.
No matter what you do in your life, no matter what it is at all, God will fogive you and accept you back if you ask for fogiveness. Ever since then i have been reaching out to others that i used to be.
<font color="red"> Saved to Live, Live to Serve </font>
I was good church-goin' little kid, but then our church closed up and we didn't go anywhere. In my teen years, I decided that religion was all a bunch of myth and crap for stupid superstitious grandmothers and i became a sworn atheist. I loved nature, and that became my 'religion"
Soon I ofund myself dabbling in the occult and ntaure worship and wicca...and I discovered, much to my horror, that there really is a spiritual world out there, and I experienced some pretty scary things.
I believe God called me back to Him and at age 17, I started reading my Bible thouroughly. For two years I studied on my own, and then went "church-shopping." In my youthful zeal, I got involved with a real fundamentalist group, went to seminary, preached, ran Bible studies, ran youth groups, wrote a book, and planted two new churches.
As I got older, I burnt out from the workload, and, at the same time, became uncomfortable with I saw as "academic dishonesty" in the teaching of my denomination, so I quit the pastorate and left the denomination. I spent alot more time healing, contemplating, praying, reading the early church fathers (also known as "Patristic" literature) and the Philokalia (monastic readings) along with the Bible, and taking Church history courses. A much "larger and grander" view of Christianity, and the Faith took shape for me.
I still go to church weekly, as does my wife and our children. Our new church is trying to convince me to enter the pastorate again /forum/images/graemlins/shocked.gif but I've resisted so far /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Through it all, our family has clung to the Holy Trinity. He has been a faithful instructor and guide. He Alone is Worthy of Honor, and Glory, and Praise, Forever and Ever, "secular seculorum" ("world without end"), Amen!
Wheww.....started gettin' excited there...../forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
My dad is a pastor, so I almost literally grew up in the church. /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif When my mom was pregnant with me, her water even broke while she was playing the piano in church! Ha ha!
I heard both of my parents proclaim God's truth in church and in Sunday School, but I also saw them live their lives accordingly every single day. My mom is now with the Lord in heaven, but my most vivid memory of her is of her sitting in her bed reading her Bible and praying every night. My dad has also been a tremendous example of unmovable faith to me.
Through their teaching and example, I came to know and love God at an early age. Since then, though there have definitely been times of difficulty and of doubt, I have grown in my personal relationship with Him and have always found Him to be faithful and good and loving and His Word to be the undisputable truth.
well maybe some people go all their lifes once a week, they listen to the priest or whoever talk etc. and then one day they realize that all this time the church has been doing so much good for them, while they havent done anything for the church.
There are definately some great stories here which have been definately worth my time reading... but here's my situation...
I've been going to church ever since i was born. Every Sunday, every holiday. Not ONCE have i ever been interested in it. Aside from when i was younger i loved to sing my heart out, but that was only because of the catchy lyrics. I looked to God over the last few years when the teenage problem years started. Obviously i looked for advice and some kind of moral reassurance on social situations (typical teen stuff). Nothing turned out the way i hoped. And from then on (and continuing now) i gradually lost faith until a year ago it hit an all time low. I lost my girlfriend of 1 1/2 years and i blamed God and his supposed "plan" for me. I loved this girl and while i'm way young, i vaguely saw quite a future. Depression hit, and i turned to lifting weights to relieve myself.
Every day, i ask myself; what is the purpose of me living? No i have not contemplated suicide because while things look grim, i know the future holds something. Now, I want to turn myself over to God, and while that is the first step, in my mind many years of not trusting God forces me to not believe. I am desperate for some kind of revelation or event that'll let me see.
Adam Knowlden
09-17-2003, 07:14 PM
The Holy Spirit works in mysterious ways.
At one time, I had been heavily involved in the occult and was possessed by a demonic spirit.
When I hit a low point, my dad actually got me to go to his old church with him. Before the preacher died a few years ago, this church was really spirit filled. The kind of church where literal miracles happened on a weekly basis. You could just feel the Spirit of God in this place big time. I remember one time during a praise session, the church actually praises to total physical exhuastion. The lead pastor prophesied that "this was a taste of eternity, when we will never get tired and can praise God forever".
But anyway, I went with my father and was immediately convicted by the Holy Spirit. I could barely stand up. I don't remember much more aside from walking to the alter.
Later, friends of my parent said the demon came forth and claimed my body and mind for Satan. The demon was forced out only by the power of God.
I turned back to God. I realized the truth after an issue that is very personal. I sincerely asked God to forgive me and come into my life. Ever since that day my life has never been the same. I was baptized in the Holy Spirit a while later, and my life has finally been fulfilled.
All I can tell you bro, is the bible describes it as "the peace that passes understanding". And that is exactly what it is. I know the Spirit of God lives in me, and I wouldn't want it any other way.
When I turned back to God, I did not even want to attend church.
What is amazing is when you look back you can see God working and how awesome it is. But in the here and now it can often seem as though nothing is going on. The only way to describe it is, amazing.
The bible says, "all things work together for good"
I happened to run into a old friends grandmother who invited me to her church and I have been attending ever since.
The thing that is weird is I had been asking God to help strengthen my life. The next thing I know, my entire family is attending the church! /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The first step you have to take is ask God into my life.
Let me tell you the drugs I was doing...when the Holy Spirit entered me, the desire to do any of that was gone instantly, and I have been clean ever since.
This is a personal story, I believe you are sincere, so I wanted you to hear it.
You need to get saved brother. I can tell you are a bright young man. The feeling of emptiness is accompanied by the fact that you are spiritually dead.
Only Jesus can make you spiritually alive. This can happen by asking him in your life, to forgive you of your sins, and heal your mind.
Jesus said, <font color="red">"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?
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He is waiting to come in to your life and fill that void, but you have to open the door:
<font color="blue">20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
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I know you are going through a lot. That is why the bible is sets a great example for us. If you want to see someone who went though hell and back, and still trusted God, read the book of Job. No man took as much suffering as him, and yet through all of it Job stayed faithful to God. Despite the fact that his friends and wife told him to curse God and die.
Finally God confronted him face to face:
<font color="green">Job 38
The LORD Speaks
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the storm. He said:
2 "Who is this that darkens my counsel
with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.
4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone-
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels [1] shouted for joy?
1 The LORD said to Job:
2 "Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him?
Let him who accuses God answer him!"
8 "Would you discredit my justice?
Would you condemn me to justify yourself?
9 Do you have an arm like God's,
and can your voice thunder like his?
10 Then adorn yourself with glory and splendor,
and clothe yourself in honor and majesty.
11 Unleash the fury of your wrath,
look at every proud man and bring him low,
12 look at every proud man and humble him,
crush the wicked where they stand.
13 Bury them all in the dust together;
shroud their faces in the grave.
14 Then I myself will admit to you
that your own right hand can save you.
21 Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
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The point is, there are going to be hard times in your life, in everybodies life. But we never know God's full plan.
I will be discussing this further in the James study. But only with the Holy Spirit will understand this:
<font color="blue">2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
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God said He would never leave you or forsake you and never put on your more than you can bear, and that those who truely seek Him will find Him.
If you want to find God, you have to place him on the throne and submit to Him. God will not answer a stubborn heart. Many say God isn't there and has to give them a sign. What they are failing to realize is they have put themselves on the throne and are demanding God to bow to them. That isn't the way it works. Put Him first, accept His grace, and be prepared to reap the rewards.
Good luck bro, I'll pray for you! /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Jenkies
09-17-2003, 08:08 PM
I wasn't raised in a family that went to church. I'm 17 right now and my family has only attended church together about 3 times total, and all three of those times I can honestly say were negative experiences. The only thing that happened was some lady sang songs about Jesus and God - and it honestly did nothing for me. I didn't feel any presence of God in the area, enlightened, or whatever. I'm not saying I don't believe in God, but I just have no desire to go to Church or learn anything about the Bible.
I have a question. Think about early mankind, when there was no religion. They didn't have any clue about a God, and who's to say they went to hell for it? It's kinda the same way for me. I wasn't really raised in a religious environment, so it would eb difficult for me to get into the whole church thing if I were to even try. I believe in God, I just don't practice a faith.
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The point is, there are going to be hard times in your life, in everybodies life. But we never know God's full plan.
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I was just thinking about this the other day and am so thankful and think He is so gracious and merciful to NOT tell us everything that is going to happen in our lives! I would probably be so overwhelmed and fearful and anxious. In His wisdom, He has not disclosed everything to us and I am so thankful that instead of worrying, I can just trust this truth:
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God said He would never leave you or forsake you and never put on your more than you can bear, and that those who truely seek Him will find Him.
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wWarriorWw
09-17-2003, 08:19 PM
oldskool you where involved with withcraft /forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif what the heck that is very strange what happened in your child hood that lead you to that?
Adam Knowlden
09-17-2003, 08:27 PM
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Patyal68
09-17-2003, 08:33 PM
OS, Thank you for sharing your testimony.
I practiced witch-craft myself too. I did that for about 20 years. Most of the rituals had to be done at night, in the dark. That pretty much describes Satan's ways: Darkness, Secrets, not being able to share. God is light. I also grew up angry towards the Lord and for many years expressed that anger screwing up big time. God pursues us is many strange ways and last February I touched bottom. I just required to trust him with all my heart and humble to His will. He saved me and gave me a second chance.
It's amazing how the Holy Spirit can fill us immediately after accepting Lord in our lives. All the secrets are gone and we are not afraid to confess our sins.
For me, accepting Christ it's all about finding freedom and peace. He gives you that strength. Going to church is only a way to express it. Church is not a place or a building but a group of people honoring the Lord. Studying the Bible is a way to learn God's word and reach the promise to be with him.
Jenkies
09-17-2003, 08:36 PM
edited.
Adam Knowlden
09-17-2003, 08:38 PM
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oldskool you where involved with withcraft what the heck that is very strange what happened in your child hood that lead you to that?
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Actually, I bet you would be suprised how popular and large occultism is in this country. It is not as taboo as you think, it is just not advertised greatly. You can see how popular the Harry Poter books have become and all these shows about haunted houses.
Witchcraft is the worship of nature, or paganism.
Patyal68
09-17-2003, 08:42 PM
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... I've been going to church ever since i was born. Every Sunday, every holiday. Not ONCE have i ever been interested in it. Aside from when i was younger i loved to sing my heart out, but that was only because of the catchy lyrics. I looked to God over the last few years when the teenage problem years started. Obviously i looked for advice and some kind of moral reassurance on social situations (typical teen stuff). Nothing turned out the way i hoped. And from then on (and continuing now) i gradually lost faith until a year ago it hit an all time low. I lost my girlfriend of 1 1/2 years and i blamed God and his supposed "plan" for me. I loved this girl and while i'm way young, i vaguely saw quite a future. Depression hit, and i turned to lifting weights to relieve myself.
Every day, i ask myself; what is the purpose of me living? No i have not contemplated suicide because while things look grim, i know the future holds something. Now, I want to turn myself over to God, and while that is the first step, in my mind many years of not trusting God forces me to not believe. I am desperate for some kind of revelation or event that'll let me see.
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There are many churches out there. Go to more than one, I'm sure God is waiting for you. You'll know it because you'll hear the words you are hungry for.
I grew up Catholic and never attended by free will. Later went to Methodist just to please my ex-fiance. We broke and went through depression. I did consired suicide, so totally understand your feelings. I love the Church where I go today and wouldn't change it, but it took time and learning from the pain. That's what life is about: growing, sometimes is painful.
I think you've made a great step by accepting your situation, now what are you going to do about it? Open your heart and you'll find your way to freedom.
Adam Knowlden
09-17-2003, 08:44 PM
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Believing fully in something which can only be documented in a book is just as stupid as rejecting God completely.
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I have just documented my life!
And so have many others. If you want proof of God, I would say, the best evidence, is changed lives. There is no denying God did miracles in my life and everybody else you have seen here. And this is only a very small portion!
Beyond that, even when I first got saved, it was hard for me to believe everything in the bible. But once you accept the truth of the Lord, the Holy Spirit will reveal the truth of His Word to you.
There is more evidence than just words. There is not one time, God has failed me. He has always justified the promises in His Word to me. At times I can not understand how. But it will amaze you how when you look back at your life, how much God has really done.
Moreover, all evidence shows there has never been a time, man has not had religion. SHow me proof to the contrary. Archeologists have always found with a civilization, evidence of religion, even among neanderthals.
You are also only believing in a book that preaches sub human ape-men, devoid of religion, that has zero evidence to back it up.
I have archeological evidence that religion has always been with man.
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I choose a middle ground.
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Going through life, without God, all alone, is going to be very hard.
alanlws16
09-17-2003, 09:07 PM
Oldschool, what do you mean by the worship of nature? Like worshiping the sun or moon? Really inspirational tale man.
**DONOTDELETE**
09-17-2003, 09:10 PM
Adam Knowlden
09-17-2003, 09:26 PM
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Oldschool, what do you mean by the worship of nature? Like worshiping the sun or moon? Really inspirational tale man.
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Yes, basically, deifying nature.
President Wilson
09-17-2003, 11:59 PM
Truthfully it has always been easy for me to believe in Jesus Christ. I have always had every reason to do so. There is a verse in the Bible which states
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Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me. 21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne. 22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
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The reason I say it has always been easy, is because quite frankly Iv'e seen so much my entire life. Many of the experiences are personal and I have only shared with those extremely close to me such as Adam, and Joe.
I will tell you a few that are easy to understand, but others are straight biblical / miraculous, and personal.
Before I was born, the doctors told my parents to have an abortion. They believed they had detected a problem which would cause several defects in me. They encouraged them tremendously to take my life.
According to my parents they faced one of the most difficult decisions ever. satan tried to claim my life early, as he has tried to claim others latter through religions such as evolution.
My Mother and Father however, prayed, and put my life in God's hands. I was 100 percent healthy, and here I am having this discussion with my fellow athletes.
That was just the beginning of some of the blessings. I'll tell you another.
When I was a kid, my parents had no money. I mean literally none. My Dad would work countless jobs, and countless hours. It was rediculous.
You must remember the following scripture
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Hebrews 11:1-3
1 Now faith is the substance F36 of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. 2 For by it the elders obtained a good report. 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
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My parents had 100 percent faith in Jesus Christ. Well, they ended up saving up 1, 000 dollars. Mind you, they did so sacraficially. They attended a church, and annonimously tithed( gave ), the thousand dollars to the church. And at this stage, I have to emphasize that this was everything they had.
Heres the punch line. The pastor announced that they had recieved the 1, 000 dollars, as it was a big deal, especially since the church was in need of it at the time.
They said, we know who gave it. And they mentioned a rather wealthy member, and everyone agreed that the member had given it.
My parents never mentioned it to anyone because it was between them and the Lord. No one would ever have suspected them to have tithed such, since we had so little.
Well, it is a fact that you cannot out give God. From that time on, and I tell you the truth. People would stop my parents, even when I was with them. People we did not even know, or had never seen before in our lives! I recall one person told my parents that our shelves would be so full of food, that we wouldn't be able to fit any more in there! This occured " three " times.
Needless to say, I was happy to hear the people mention the extra food /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
So did it come true?
I'll tell you the first of many miracles to confirm this.
My parents immediately after this wanted us to go to a Christian Private school. The tuition was very expensive.
And we didn't have even close to the money to pay for this.
But my parents prayed over it, and put myself and my brother in the school anyway! No kidding, I tell you the truth. They didn't have a dime to pay either!
Well about a month into the semester, the principles daughter was standing in the parking lot, and a car came zooming in.
My Dad was outside to pick me up and saw this. He ran and pushed her out of the way! And the car crashed into a pole. The person driving was ok, but the Principles daughter would have been DEAD.
Needless to say, we got free tuition that year /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
After that had occured, or shortly there after. My Dad ended out getting a big time top paying job. A job where the competition to get in was flat out numerous! A year after that our shelves were so full that we couldnt fit the food in the cabinet!
And there is allot more where that came from!
That is really just the begginning of what Iv'e witnessed.
The point is this. There is no excuse. If you accept Jesus into your life, he will change it. That is a guarantee, and you will see things you never dreamed possible, and feel a love, joy and peace which passes all understanding. It is incomprehensible. Nothing you have ever done will compare to a relationship with Jesus Christ.
That however is just the beginning.
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1 Corinthians 2-9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
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RGKfit
09-18-2003, 12:06 AM
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The Holy Spirit works in mysterious ways.
At one time, I had been heavily involved in the occult. Some may never believe this and think I'm crazy and that's fine, I don't care, but I was possessed by a demonic spirit.
When I hit a low point, my dad actually got me to go to his old church with him. Before the preacher died a few years ago, this church was hardcore. The kind of church where literal miracles happened on a weekly basis. You could just feel the Spirit of God in this place big time. I remember one time during a praise session, the church actually praises to total physical exhuastion. The lead pastor prophesied that "this was a taste of eternity, when we will never get tired and can praise God forever".
But anyway, I went with my father and was immediately convicted by the Holy Spirit. I could barely stand up. I don't remember much more aside from walking to the alter.
Later, friends of my parent said the demon came forth and claimed my body and mind for Satan. The demon was forced out only by the power of God.
The crazy thing is, I had hidden medallions on me used in witch craft. The head pastor ripped them right out of their hiding spots without even knowing they were there.
I was freed, but I still rejected God. Don't ask me why, the only thing I can imagine is the drugs I was into warped my mind. I am convinced the devil uses drugs to keep people apart from God. They are almost a opening to the spiritual world that allow the devil to control your mind.
Eventually, I turned back to God. I realized the truth after an issue that is very personal. I sincerely asked God to forgive me and come into my life. Ever since that day my life has never been the same. I was baptized in the Holy Spirit a while later, and my life has finally been fulfilled.
All I can tell you bro, is the bible describes it as "the peace that passes understanding". And that is exactly what it is. I know the Spirit of God lives in me, and I wouldn't want it any other way.
When I turned back to God, I did not even want to attend church.
What is amazing is when you look back you can see God working and how awesome it is. But in the here and now it can often seem as though nothing is going on. The only way to describe it is, amazing.
The bible says, "all things work together for good"
I happened to run into a old friends grandmother who invited me to her church and I have been attending ever since.
The thing that is weird is I had been asking God to help strengthen my life. The next thing I know, my entire family is attending the church! /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
The first step you have to take is ask God into my life.
Let me tell you the drugs I was doing...when the Holy Spirit entered me, the desire to do any of that was gone instantly, and I have been clean ever since.
This is a personal story, I believe you are sincere, so I wanted you to hear it.
You need to get saved brother. I can tell you are a bright young man. The feeling of emptiness is accompanied by the fact that you are spiritually dead.
Only Jesus can make you spiritually alive. This can happen by asking him in your life, to forgive you of your sins, and heal your mind.
Jesus said, <font color="red">"I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?
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He is waiting to come in to your life and fill that void, but you have to open the door:
<font color="blue">20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
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I know you are going through a lot. That is why the bible is sets a great example for us. If you want to see someone who went though hell and back, and still trusted God, read the book of Job. No man took as much suffering as him, and yet through all of it Job stayed faithful to God. Despite the fact that his friends and wife told him to curse God and die.
Finally God confronted him face to face:
<font color="green">Job 38
The LORD Speaks
1 Then the LORD answered Job out of the storm. He said:
2 "Who is this that darkens my counsel
with words without knowledge?
3 Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.
4 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
5 Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
6 On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone-
7 while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels [1] shouted for joy?
1 The LORD said to Job:
2 "Will the one who contends with the Almighty correct him?
Let him who accuses God answer him!"
8 "Would you discredit my justice?
Would you condemn me to justify yourself?
9 Do you have an arm like God's,
and can your voice thunder like his?
10 Then adorn yourself with glory and splendor,
and clothe yourself in honor and majesty.
11 Unleash the fury of your wrath,
look at every proud man and bring him low,
12 look at every proud man and humble him,
crush the wicked where they stand.
13 Bury them all in the dust together;
shroud their faces in the grave.
14 Then I myself will admit to you
that your own right hand can save you.
21 Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
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The point is, there are going to be hard times in your life, in everybodies life. But we never know God's full plan.
I will be discussing this further in the James study. But only with the Holy Spirit will understand this:
<font color="blue">2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
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God said He would never leave you or forsake you and never put on your more than you can bear, and that those who truely seek Him will find Him.
If you want to find God, you have to place him on the throne and submit to Him. God will not answer a stubborn heart. Many say God isn't there and has to give them a sign. What they are failing to realize is they have put themselves on the throne and are demanding God to bow to them. That isn't the way it works. Put Him first, accept His grace, and be prepared to reap the rewards.
Good luck bro, I'll pray for you! /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif
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Thats some pretty powerful stuff! God works in mysterious ways. I am a recent convert myself, actually disdained god and talked agnostic for years. Had a good education both ways, went to a catholic school, so I knew the bible well and the teachings. But, felt it was forced down my throat, and being the rebel that I always was, totally denounced it and got as schooled the other way as I had in religion. I was a somewhat student of Darwin/science. What finally got me back in the fold was I believe just simple common sense, wisdom, and knowledge. In my heart I always knew, but my actions were very childish and much was just my desire to play devils advocate. I have found God again, and my life is much the better for it...
President Wilson
09-18-2003, 12:11 AM
That is fantastic to hear RGKfit!
Deep313
09-18-2003, 12:21 AM
If you are not intrested i got intrested more on this site also i dunno what kind of church u go to but mine is boring and does same old sutff everyweek but everyonce in awhile when i see one on tv like someone who gets into it and explains things i like that and get intrested in it i dunno if its just me. But ever since i have been on this site i have been praying more.
Venom
09-18-2003, 12:25 AM
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Yes, that is so great to hear.
Thank you for sharing all your wonderful testimonies guys. /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Adam Knowlden
09-18-2003, 12:46 AM
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Very true RKKfit. It's the simplicity of Christ.
<font color="red"> 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
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Thanks for sharing President! You're family is hardcore!
I have also seen many miracles.
For example one time at a church camp, we were all walking through the woods on a nature hike.
It was really cool, and our camp counselor was a very wise spiritual leader.
Anyway, our group all kneeled down to pray.
At the end of the prayer, the couselor prayed that God would shower us with His blessings.
At that very instant, thunder cracked and it poured down rain for like 5 seconds. It was a little awe inspiring to say the least!
Many things have happened in my life, that confirm God is watching our every move, and has great plans for us. Not only here but also in eternity.
<font color="red"> 4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
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wow..it's been almost a year since i read this thread... lol. i came across the 'abc testimonials' link in OS's sig as i was browsing through the bible studies and i was surprised to see this thread here (one that i started lol)...
looking back now on me a year ago. i have definately changed... i finally accepted christ 2 weeks ago :] ill share my testimony after my lifting session (as i am in school right now /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)
excellent thread nonetheless.
William Ustav
09-08-2004, 02:11 PM
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looking back now on me a year ago. i have definately changed... i finally accepted christ 2 weeks ago :] ill share my testimony after my lifting session (as i am in school right now /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)
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WOW!!! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif That is soooo awesome! You have no idea how psyched I am right now to hear that! /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif
You should read my sticky on Biblical Love - it's the basis! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Are you interested in creation science too?
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looking back now on me a year ago. i have definately changed... i finally accepted christ 2 weeks ago :] ill share my testimony after my lifting session (as i am in school right now /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif)
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WOW!!! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif That is soooo awesome! You have no idea how psyched I am right now to hear that! /forum/images/graemlins/cool.gif
You should read my sticky on Biblical Love - it's the basis! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Are you interested in creation science too?
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ive read a few of OS's articles on the science of creation (very good reads btw) and i can definately say im interested. i dont have quite as much knowledge about it as id like , but im willing to learn ;]
im checking out your sticky, now
William Ustav
09-08-2004, 02:30 PM
Great! Tell me what you thought about it when you're done! I hope it creates some insight!
Venom
09-08-2004, 02:49 PM
That's awesome! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
**DONOTDELETE**
09-08-2004, 06:46 PM
brgrman
09-08-2004, 07:11 PM
^^^What they said...Doesn't it feel great?
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Oh no doubt! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif Ahh...to have purpose in life :].
gotta hold off the testimony until tommorrow morning..bah...i got homework to do :\
Kitosho
09-08-2004, 08:35 PM
Since it's up here, might as well share.
For a long time, I had been falling into mostly agnostic thinking. To put it simply, I didn't really care - I was a "part time christian".
The first part of my conversion was this song: "The Spirit Carries On" by Dream Theater. While part of the story, the first few lyrics hit me like a ton of bricks:
Where did we come from?
Why are we here?
Where do we go when we die?
What lies beyond?
And what lay before?
Is anything certain in life?
They say, life is too short
The here and the now
And you're only given one shot
But could there be more?
Have I lived before?
Or could this be all that we've got?
R: If I die tomorrow, I'd be alright
Because I believe
that after we're gone, the spirit carries on.
I used to be frightened of dying
I used to think death was the end
But that was before, I'm not scared anymore
I know that my soul will transcend.
I may never find all the answers,
I may never understand why
I may never prove what I know to be true
But I know that I still have to try
-refrain-
Like I said, it's meant to be a part of a story carried through the album, but it had a different meaning to me.
Soon after, I "re"-found ABC. I had long since stopped going to it (while I still worked out, I cared much less about how I looked - I got more involved in gymnastics and powerlifting and, recently, kettlebell lifting). For some reason, I came back. The first thing I found? Some of Yu's writing on Creationism vs. Evolutionism.
This stuff seemed like complete horse pockey to me. I thought he must have been crazy. But I knew I would just be an arrogant boob if I didn't read it myself, so I did. And it started coming together.
What really hit me hardest was the writings Yu showed me the other day about what Heaven is like. I actually laughed out loud because it sounded so wonderful - not sarcastic laughing, but joyful laughing.
This was the past few weeks. It's been a slow process, and I'm sure I'll be learning more as time goes on. But I'm not gonna rush it. ;D
-Kitosho
Venom
09-08-2004, 10:40 PM
Wow! Awesome testimony. /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
psaturn
09-09-2004, 01:25 AM
That was really moving !!! I really appreciated the testimonies of Old School, and Yu and President Wilson.
That giving of $1000 by his parents was quite something. That gave testimonies of God's faithfulness to the children.
About some people were shocked about witchcraft involvement by Old School...well, guess what ? What do you think Harry Potter is all about ? Why do you think my pastors discourage their own children reading and watching movies about Harry Potter ? It is NOT an innocent movie !!!
psaturn
09-09-2004, 01:25 AM
And AK47, Welcome to the KINGDOM !!!
William Ustav
09-09-2004, 10:44 AM
Fantastic, Kitosho!!! If you have any questions, just ask!!! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
alright, here's my testimony...sorry for the delay.
-just a warning since its long. i mixed parts of my actual lifestory with my christian upbringing.. again sorry its so long.
My story...
Life was good for the first 11-12 years of my life. I went to a great elementary school in Toronto, Canada, had a ton of friends, and played a huge variety of sports. I guess you can't call it "confidence" when you're just a kid, but i knew what i wanted, and i always strived to get it. I guess i was a little self-centered and such, but i was good-hearted and i had a good humor so i made many friends and very few enemies. The highlight of those years though was that there was this one girl named Katie[not her real name as i think someone might know me from readin this ], who yes i had a huge "crush" on. She was really cute, blonde, athletic and had a great personality. However, as a little kid going through those so called "cootie" phases, i'd always kind of make fun of her (unfortunately it came off as being mean. :[) because i liked her so much. Meh...when you're that young, that's usually a sign of affection i guess.
Then came middle school and 6th grade. Most, if not all, of the kids from elementary school moved on to DMMS (name of middle school) and a buncha kids from other elementary schools. From my small class of 30, it became a class of 140 students in 6th grade. I continued to play a ton of sports, and my attitude/confidence was still soaring. By then, i had matured a little and i went for my dream, Katie. She too had matured, and soon our enemy-like relationship turned into a more boyfriend/girlfriend type. To say the least...i was in heaven.
Then, it all came crashing down. My dad came home one day and said, "We're moving to BOSTON." I was wrecked. I said my goodbyes to my friends and Katie and I had our first kiss ever. Was it sweet? No doubt. Will i remember it forever? No doubt. So, Katie and I promised that we'd stay together forever (aww..yes..very cute haha). And i was incredibly happy. But deep down, i knew, things would slowly fade. And thats exactly what happened.
Part two...my life in Boston..
I came to Boston during the Summer of '99. I was going to be in 7th grade at the town's middle school.
First day of school came...wow, this was a completely different world than Toronto. I was not accustumed to how people here functioned. It was only 800 miles apart, but the seperation from me to society here was 1 zillion miles. My confidence dropped ridiculously. I made a few friends who, like me, had low low confidence. I quit playing most of my sports which i was relatively good at. I took up playing computer games all day because i was good at it. I never reached the level of a social outcast because i was never really a degenerate (bad wording, i know), but i was never really even in the middle of the social ladder.
My only salvation was my trips back to Toronto during vacations and the mail letters me and Katie exchanged. It was so strange that as soon as i was back in the Toronto area, i was back to how i USED to be. But when i returned to Boston, it was the same sullen mood over again. Crazy how your confidence levels can fluctuate that much due to environment, isnt it?
Anyways, that continued on for, 3-4 more years. I was in hell. Then Junior year came around. My close friend introduced the idea that we start lifting. I knew right then and there that this was going to save me. I was a little nieve in thinking that by lifting and getting huge, i would gain friends and girls, but what a way to motivate yourself huh? Being the computer addict i was, i knew about BB.com and such (from other online forums..) and i adopted basic BBing routines and diets. I also started going to a church in Boston where there was an incredibly positive environment and for the first time ever, i felt like it was back home in Toronto when i was at this church.
However, i never reached the point where i truly believed IN Jesus. I knew he lived, i knew what he had done, but i couldnt comprehend WHY, and therefore for the rest of my junior year i never came to accept christ. Throughout the year, my confidence grew and grew as i got bigger in size (coincidence really, but the size did help) and i started hanging out more with the party crew. I wont go into what i did, but i was sinning like none other. Ugh.
This continued on until about the end of the summer 04... My church had a retreat for the final weekend before school. I came in with no expectations because if i had expectations, i thought i would have a few dissappointments. Anyways, everything was going incredibly. Worship time was super-uplifting, and the sermons were passionate. However, i never really did come to understanding the Lords grace. Then came Sunday afternoon. I had scheduled, or more like my counselor scheduled, a meeting to see how life was going. It began with us talking about the norm, how school was, when i was gonna drive and such. But then we began talking about my faith and it was there where i went deeper than i had ever gone in a conversation with anyone. I talked about everything i had before, my life in Toronto, and my fluctuating levels of self-esteem etc.. Then he asked me a simple question, "What is holding you back?" After a few minutes, i replied that i guessed it was me.
All through my life, i had been building a wall mentally. Every time i did something that would block me from walking in Christ, i would "lay another brick down." This wall grew enormous. My counselor then introduced several verses to me and told me to go somewhere and REALLY think about these. This is where i found philippians 4:13. And it was then when i began to realize how great God's grace was.
That night, during Worship time, something happened to me that had not happened to me in a LONG time. As we sang "Holy is the Lord," i broke down and cried like none other. At first it was a few tears, but then it really came streaming down. I had to sit down. Through my head, i felt like every sin that i ever committed was flowing through me and OUT of me. It was at that moment, i fully understand why Christ did it. Why he beared the sins of the ENTIRE WORLD on his back. God loved and still loves us, immensely. No human could ever do that, but Jesus was and is perfect.
From that night, everything has changed. I look at the world differently, and...honestly, i can not wait to go up to the kingdom.
praise be to the lord.. /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
RichW
09-10-2004, 11:03 AM
That was incredible!
I was really moved by your testimony!
Congratulations! I am proud to call you my Brother in Christ!
Keep studying the word and keep close to Christ!
The evil one doesn't give up easy but know this, Greater is he that is within you than he that is in the world!
We are all here for you if you need anything!
William Ustav
09-10-2004, 05:19 PM
Awesome, testimony!!! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Adam Knowlden
09-10-2004, 05:39 PM
Wow guys! Thanks for sharing! Awesome updates!
b Beth
9 How can a young man keep his way pure?
By living according to your word.
10 I seek you with all my heart;
do not let me stray from your commands.
11 I have hidden your word in my heart
that I might not sin against you.
psaturn
09-11-2004, 04:29 AM
Praise God ! I was so touched ! You had a supernatural encounter with God ! Your life will never be the*same !
Welcome again to the Kingdom, my brother !
given_to_fly
12-12-2004, 05:54 PM
Hey everyone, I think its finally time I added my testimonial. As a believer and searcher for God throughout my entire life, I've never felt passion for it, I was always in question about certain things. But in the last week, I've opened my heart to him and I've never been the same since.
I'm 20 right now, was raised Catholic, went to Catholic schools right up until now in university. I always had a belief in God, but it went no deeper than saying "yeah I believe". I didn't understand what people on this board meant when they said "open your heart to Him and you'll never doubt again"... I thought I had opened my heart to Him even 2 weeks ago, but that was not the case.
Just over 2 years ago my Dad took sick with brain cancer. Just before this time God gave me bodybuilding. It started out slowly, and I didn't have this site as a resource, but I had a great interest in it nonetheless. It wasn't until last year in the fall when I found this site just as my Dad was getting a lot sicker that I started to get more and more into bodybuilding. I started reading the Bible studies here, and I came into a greater understanding of who God was. My Dad passed away last November and I know that I would not have gotten through it as well as I did had it not been for bodybuilding and this site. Not to discount the incredible, incredible people in my life of course. Even through all this though, I was still empty inside. I got back together with my girlfriend earlier this year and I thought things were great until we started fighting a lot and I finally realized I was changing and wasn't the person I wanted to be. I had no direction. What was the biggest problem holding me back? My relationship with her. She's not a Christian, and I took part in sinful activity I knew was wrong. She's a good person, but... well that relationship was holding me back from fully accepting Christ. I discovered that I couldn't take Him into my life while deliberately disobeying Him. How could anyone follow him while going against Him?
So, this last Thursday came and things had been on the rocks, and I believe God put me in a whole number of situations telling me I needed to end it. I had to do it, so I finally sucked it up, as hard as it was with my best friend and girlfriend, and ended it. That very night, things started to click in me. I wept and asked God into my life, I told him I knew I had sinned, I know I am a sinner, and that I wanted to live a life under Him. My prayer that night was somewhere between 30 and 45 minutes, never had I prayed that long despite praying nearly every night of my life. I just felt different inside.
I finally understand now why bodybuilding was brought into my life and all the miracles that took place for me to be here writing this right now. I finally understand everything, and most of all, I understand what everyone meant by "open your heart to him and you'll never again doubt", as well as I understand His love for me and the world now.
I've always admired the followers from this site and I wish to say a thank you to God for all of you. I've always envied what you had and now I can fully stand beside you in worshipping our Creator. I also tried but couldn't get my number one priority in bodybuilding to be glorifying God. Looking back, of course it wasn't going to work, but now it truly is the reason I want to bodybuild before any other reasons.
I finally feel a passion, a burning in me, and I know that while I don't know what I'm going to be doing with my life, I don't have to worry as my trust is placed fully in His hands. He is the truth. Thanks be to God!
ps. Saw Switchfoot live on Wednesday and that was a huge inspiration! "nothing I was holding back remains" -sf
GTF,
I just want to say thanks for posting that. It is so good to hear how God works in peoples' lives. And I know some of the decisions you had to make (like ending a relationship that you knew wasn't pleasing to Him) to follow him must have been really hard, but I know that He will bless you for it, and I truly believe that the joy you will now know will be beyond what you could have ever experienced before. I am so happy for you, and I will keep you in my prayers.
TheOtherSide
12-12-2004, 09:01 PM
During today's workout, I'm sure I felt the presence of God at the time. I had the song, "I Walk Alone" by Greenday playing, and I was just about to try a deadlift 1 rm (again, after having just previously beating my old one), and suddenly Will's (I believe it was will who said it) quote of something like "It will be very hard, going through life without Him," resonding to someone who said they will go through life without Him. Then I suddenly thought about how I wasn't "walking alone" and I had God by my side....I took a step back and thought "God, I know you're going to help me with this one." I then proceeded to go and beat my 1rm yet again. The rest of the workout, it felt as if God was lifting the weight along with me, and everything seemed lighter. Everything was great.
During the workout, I really did begin to truely believe in God. And I thought to myself "Boy, I hope this doesn't begin to wear off." Well, the workout was now a few hours ago, and it has begun to wear off...I remember feeling so happy, and confident...but now I do feel like I felt earlier today...except now I had it at one time, so I know what I'm missing. Looks like theres still some things I have to figure out...
MMouse
12-12-2004, 09:56 PM
My road which had lead me to where I stand today started when I was just born. I went to church with my mom at a very early age. My dad didn't attend with us. He worked alot of weekends ( oilfield in northern alberta ) but his principles stayed strong to help guide us. Most would look at growing up in the church as an entirely good thing, but as I grew I took things for granted. I believed in God because that's what I was told, not because I had sought him out and felt his presence on my own.
In my teens I feel away from God and the church and started to dabble in worldly things. Drugs, alcohol, pornography and even some light presence of the occult found their way into my life.I began a downward spiral which I am still recovering from today. Soon, partying and sexual lust seemed to take over my entire life. I focused on the next party, or where to score the next bag of pot rather than my family, friends or future. I allowed the enemy to pull me farther and farther away.
5 Years ago I met my current fiance. She helped lift me out of my rut, as I couldn't be the person I had become and be with her. She deserved so much better. I gave up alcohol, drugs, smoking and then lastly pornography. I had come a long way, but I still wasn't done.
2 years ago I was deeply depressed. Life didn't seem to matter much. I was still wrapped up in the cares of the world and it left me feeling empty. In the beginning of December 02, I turned to the bible. I felt the best place to start was with the story of Jesus. If he was to save me and I was to believe I needed to turn to him, learn more of him and grow closer to him. As I read on I was prompted to fast, learning from his example that it would help me greatly with whatever I needed. I fasted for one day, praying throughout the day asking for help. I came home from work that night, didn't even have my boots or jacket off and the phone rang... it was the bishop from the church. If ever a prayer was to be answered in a blunt manner this was it. I met with him a few days later and we talked about my problems.
Since then I have been steadily bringing myself closer to God, trying to walk the path he would have me walk. It hasn't been easy even since then. The enemy knows my weaknesses and exploit them at every opportunity. God has given me the strength I have asked for and I have been blessed by him countless times, all because i have gained a true testimony of him and turned to him in times of need. I am stil recovering from the lifestyle I lead coming out of high school. It left me lost, unknowing of who I even was. I gave up my life and am still trying to get it back. God has been there with me, helping me rebuild it piece by piece.
given_to_fly
12-13-2004, 09:31 AM
Thats a great story MMouse and I pray you continue along your path.
TheOtherSide: I pray you find Him, it really does change your heart
William Ustav
12-13-2004, 09:47 AM
Theotherside - make sure you start reading the Bible! Pray to the Lord to never leave you, and ask forgiveness in the name of Jesus! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
I'll pray for you!
TheOtherSide
12-13-2004, 03:29 PM
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Thanks guys!
Today,it seemed like a nice little miracle happend once an hour, every hour! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif The only thing is that I hate to say all those things happend directly from God, as they could have just been induced by the fact that I thought God was with me (and therefore had more selfconfidence)...in anycase, it was a good day. I feel the Lord is drawing me further in.
P.S. Does anyone have a pic where God is spotting someone? That's what yesterday's workout felt like, and I'd really appreciate it if someone had a pic!
William Ustav
12-13-2004, 06:40 PM
If God is spotting someone??? /forum/images/graemlins/confused.gif LOL, you need to change your concept of God, boy! /forum/images/graemlins/grin.gif
TheOtherSide
12-13-2004, 09:11 PM
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Well haven't you ever heard the story (not sure if its in the bible), where a man is looking back at his life, and sees 2 sets of footprints, and asks Jesus,"why, in the difficult times, did I walk alone?" To which Jesus replies "My son, these were the times I carried you."
It's quite analogous to this, it really felt like God was helping me the whole way throughout the workout.
Paige
04-23-2005, 01:49 AM
My relationship with God has been less than adequate lately. However he's shown me that one of the steps to getting back on track with Him is to humble myself, not just before God but other people as well. I've only shared most of this with Adam and parts with Joe, and a handful of people I am close to. The most edifying thing for me is hearing about how our Lord changes lives. So, here's mine! It's long versus the short time I've been Christian, but it's all been worth it.
The household I grew up in was not a religious one. My dad was raised Catholic and ended up despising all religion. My mother is Christian, but she believes religion should be a private matter; I'm not sure if it's because of my dad or something else. Either way religion was a bit taboo. When I was 11 or 12 my mother had me say the sinner's prayer, without even explaining to me what I was doing. Although I had no idea I cried when I said it, like my heart understood. She bought me a Bible but I couldn't understand anything, so I gave up reading in the middle of Genesis and didn't touch it again until about 18 months ago. I never believed the stories I heard because at that time evolution was being introduced to me in school, and I felt I needed some scientific evidence if I was going to believe anything anyone told me. People lie about Santa, so I figured how is this any different? I got into Wicca for awhile too, but ultimately I was evolutionist. I read all about Darwin and bashed Christians with my best friend who was also evolutionist. But the whole time God was always trying to call me to Him with what was in my path.
When I was 16, I met who would've been my first boyfriend. We became like best friends and wanted to pursue a relationship. I never had much of a relationship with either of my parents or with anyone, and I became the shy kid that everyone picked on in school. I didn't have but two friends up through high school. By that time I got tired of everyone and started getting into fights all over the place. So my friendship with this guy was totally a new thing for me. I wasn't allowed to date anyone until I graduated, which would've been about six months later. But my parents said since I was so close to graduating, "why not?" I was surprised, I thought I was going to have to throw a hissy fit. I never got along with my parents, I was so selfish and it got to the point where I didn't care about them anymore as long as I got my own way.
Things started out great, but he wanted me to have sex with him. I wanted to save myself for whatever reason then. He seemed okay with it for a couple of days but progressively got impatient and forced himself onto me finally. After that he'd threaten to hurt me or kill my parents if I told him I didn't want to see him or have sex with him, and I couldn't have any other friends but him. I always had to have his permission to interact with anyone that wasn't in my family, I thought maybe he was jealous of my best friend who was a guy. He always carried a knife and a stolen gun with him, so I believed he would do something. On top of that he was simultaneously seeing about nine other girls whom he called his "harem." He was a drug dealer and did a lot of the drugs he sold. For awhile he kept me away from it but that didn't last long. I got addicted to a lot of his drugs. I wanted out of the relationship but the drugs became an excuse to keep seeing him. I had even protected him from someone I knew was an undercover cop trying to bust him just so I could keep getting my fix. I never saw my parents because they were always working, so they had absolutely no clue. My grades had plummeted too. I still managed to graduate early somehow but I'm no where near as smart as I used to be. For awhile I thought suicide was the only way out but I was afraid of what he'd do to my family. The next best thing was to kill him myself; I had bought some poison to soak his toothbrush in, to slowly try to kill him. I knew then I was at an all time low and I was afraid of the person I was turning into if I was preparing to enact a plan to kill someone! I needed help then, but to let you know that was the sort of person I was turning into. He suddenly skipped town for some reason one day, maybe because I was threatening to turn him in, I don't know. I am glad though because I didn't have a chance to use the poison, he moved at the time I procured it. Good thing because now and even then I wouldn't be able to cope with that on my conscience, even if it didn't work. I'm guilt-ridden for even thinking about it! After he skipped town I became a total shut-in. I didn't want anything to do with anyone anymore because he confirmed all my worst fears. First I was just scared of being hurt again, but then I hated any and all interaction with anyone (especially men), didn't care what anyone thought or needed. Heck, I probably even wouldn't have spit on you if you were on fire. When I moved out of that phase I would tolerate people, but I didn't want any close relationships with anyone. I lost a lot of respect for myself and got addicted to masterbation and slept around with a couple other guys (AND a woman /forum/images/graemlins/crazy.gif). I was starting to steal from my parents, and was in the process of developing a psychological addiction to alcohol, but I found God just in the nick of time before that got any further.
What ultimately led me to God was at the time I was borderline anorexic. He would always compare me to thinner and prettier women and ask me why I couldn't be more like them. Then I became anorexic and bulimic. I didn't get over that until about two years ago and a few months after that I found ABC and started learning about proper nutrition. I remember reading the forum rules, rolled my eyes and said to myself "God, not another Christian site." But a month later, I took a step back and evaluated a lot of things, and realised I needed to fill up a void. I read some of the religious threads and see how joyous many other members were, and the discussions in the Bible studies, how faulty my evolutionist mindset had been. Then I knew I needed Christ, and I knew then what I was doing. God put people and things in my path to allow me to find ways to cultivate a relationship with Him. I got baptised this last November. It's been the best six months of my life! You wouldn't believe the transformation God has made inside of me and in my life! He truly is the God of healing. /forum/images/graemlins/smile.gif And justice! My ex recently landed his scrawny butt in federal prison for some international drug crap he pulled. /forum/images/graemlins/wink.gif
Other than that, in all honesty I can't wait until I die now! But I don't mean that in a pessimistic way. /forum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
William Ustav
04-23-2005, 10:15 AM
Wow, this is the most inspiring thing I've ever heard! Your story is simply amazing, Paige! I'm really glad you found God!
Until you become a full member with 150 posts, feel free to e-mail me or the admins with whatever questions you may have regarding evolution/creation, or just anything regarding the Bible. We'll be happy to try to help! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
psaturn
04-23-2005, 02:45 PM
Wow ! Brought tears to my eyes !
Adam Knowlden
04-23-2005, 03:06 PM
Paige,
Your testimony is awe-inspiring. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. You have no idea how much that has meant to me to read that.
I needed to hear this now too.
Last night I was on my face praying to God about a situation in my life, and realized I was doubting God's power to do the impossible.
Right before I fell asleep(for you techies stage one sleep) God gave me a clear Word,
<font color="red"> Is anything too hard for the LORD ? </font>
Jesus also said,
<font color="green"> 23In that day you will no longer ask me anything. I tell you the truth, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name. 24Until now you have not asked for anything in my name. Ask and you will receive, and your joy will be complete.
</font>
God has turned your life into a success, and as Solomon said when He dedicated the Temple:
<font color="brown"> 56 "Praise be to the LORD , who has given rest to his people Israel just as he promised. Not one word has failed of all the good promises he gave through his servant Moses. </font>
Thank you for blessing us with your life story! /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
kokokolo
12-14-2005, 05:31 AM
I was raised a christian, but my family turned inactive in the churc, eventually old school brought me back thanks to the link at the end of his posts
"†Bible Study Links!† " , and he didnt even know it.
Adam Knowlden
12-14-2005, 06:00 AM
Hey bro, that is very awesome!
Your coming to CHrist was not from me though, I'm just a sinner saved by grace. I am glad I could be a vessel for God to use.
God draws all men unto Himself, many reject, few heed.
To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts,
Matthew 7:13
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.
I'm really happy to hear that you have inherited eternal life bro! PM me anytime.
In Him, Adam.
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