The official Women Are Evil Journal [Archive]

CoolWater

03-20-2002, 06:27 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by The Internet Author:
what are you going on about? We are not evil just smart, cunning and dammed sexy. as for you men on the other hand, you guys are narrow-minded (sex) con artists (sex) and absolutely unrealistic (sex)
Women deal with what they have and if we have had to get nasty it is because of men in the first place,,,,
hahaha
Would you like to take this further.....??????
haha
Hey bud what's up...I'm back...<hr></blockquote>

Women, like I've said time and time again, are evil. They go around saying men are scum, men are one dimensional. Well no crap, why do you think we can produce sperm until we die? You don't honestly think a guy would come up to you in a hot, sweaty rave and say "Baby, you look so fine" if he gave a crap about your intelligence. But it appears that the guys that GET TA KNOW YA end up being the gay confidant. Nice guys get screwed over all the time cause we end up being shy (like me) and bad boys get all the girls cause they look cute. Content *ptui*

*somebody has to potition to have

Case in point. I was trying to get to know this GIRL (not woman, as I would find out) and was pretty much hanging out with her and her best friend one night (that's right, a serious attempt to get to know her and her friends). Her friend goes out and she goes out a couple seconds later. (Subtle hint, eh? gonna talk about me) All night I had SUBTLY been trying to test her intellect and had been dissapointed consistently. Anyway I hear her coming back into the dorm room with her friend and what do I hear;
her friend: He's hella cute.
Her: Yeah, but he's such a dork
The sad thing is, she is in college but is still a child. She ASPIRES to become Britney Spears, she LOVES Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and she has a huge crush on Josh Hartnett. I mean BRITNEY SPEARS. I don't even want to get started on how she is the offspring of Satan and how her existence represents the culmination of ALL that is wrong in this nation.

Asside from that topic, I am sick and tired of hearing the same girls tell me "I want commitment and a serious man who understands me", then, a day later I hear them talking about how they want Ja Rule to be the father of their babies. Do you call THAT consistent? I sure as hell don't.

ChymChymX

03-20-2002, 06:32 PM

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CoolWater

03-20-2002, 06:36 PM

I'm sorry, I'm just a little pissed off about that whole incident. Let me start over.

In truth, it is more difficult to be a woman than a man in a relationship because men are simple and women are complex. But why is that? Because girls are raised in two worlds. The world of reality and the world of illusion.

As was previously said, women have to live in two worlds; they have to be servitous, but strong. Intelligent, but simple. Be mature, even while they are still young; made up, but not superficial.

Where has the simple "be yourself" gone?
Plus there's the whole double standard. And the strange thing is, even other women propogate the sense upon themselves. That's why I like Hippy Chicks (and Alicia Keys, but that's neither here nor there). Not only do they have something to say, but they give love away for FREE (don't have ta by 'em dinner or anything... cool).

Jus my two cents.

Large And In Charge

03-20-2002, 07:59 PM

Large And In Charge

03-20-2002, 08:20 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by cunning22:
I suppose your mother screwed you up pretty bad for you have such awful relationships with women. The only reason someone hates another gender is because they are too ignorant to realize that they are the ones with the problem.

I find this website to be interesting and insightful, but I've found so many anti-female messages in such a short amount of time that I don't believe I shall be returning.<hr></blockquote>
Whoa!!!!!!

You are mixing up the meanings of "hate" and "evil!" Look in the dictionary, they mean 2 seperate things. Let me make this perfectly clear:

I have NEVER said that I hate women!

Some of my best friends on abc are women including 1 that responded, The Internet Author.

And just because I'm saying women are evil, doesn't mean that I'm sticking up for my gender either. I could literally writte a novel on guys in general!

El'Dopa

03-20-2002, 08:21 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by CoolWater:

Where has the simple "be yourself" gone?
Plus there's the whole double standard. And the strange thing is, even other women propogate the sense upon themselves. That's why I like Hippy Chicks (and Alicia Keys, but that's neither here nor there). Not only do they have something to say, but they give love away for FREE (don't have ta by 'em dinner or anything... cool).

Jus my two cents.<hr></blockquote>

best t20 cents I've heard in a while
my problem isn't with all women at all. I love women. it's just that i live with these six girls who all think they're flaming hot *ish*, but they're nothing more than 'bar hot'. all they do is ***** and complain about everyone else like they are the only people in the world who are ever right. I can't believe they are all so self centered.

another thing about them is that they say they want an honest good man, but they always go for guys who get all the girls (players). Then they come crying to me when they get hurt over, and over again.

that's it! I'm moving out!

Large And In Charge

03-20-2002, 08:33 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by leena:
well, what you're saying is about 65% to 70% true. Speaking as a woman, about 65% of the women i know are pretty evil, manipulating, coniving and dishonest; the nice ones break down like this: 10% are genuine and 15% are grandmothers and 10% are chubby. watch out for those skinny ones. one of my friends wasa model and she was constantly pissed off, hungry and at 5'10" and 108 pounds who could blame her. women have too much baggage, that's why i found it too difficult to be a lesbian images/icons/wink.gif and watch out for those crazy moms at the gym.
good luck!<hr></blockquote>
This is straight from a woman! graemlins/thumb.gif That's going to get you 5 stars.

I think the percentage of evil women is higher than that but you understand where I'm coming from. I know there are acceptions to the rule and some are on abc.

Large And In Charge

03-20-2002, 08:46 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by CoolWater:
I'm sorry, I'm just a little pissed off about that whole incident. Let me start over.<hr></blockquote>
Hey man, don't be sorry.

Elmo9286

03-20-2002, 09:57 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by L-Dopa:

best t20 cents I've heard in a while
my problem isn't with all women at all. I love women. it's just that i live with these six girls who all think they're flaming hot *ish*, but they're nothing more than 'bar hot'. all they do is ***** and complain about everyone else like they are the only people in the world who are ever right. I can't believe they are all so self centered.

another thing about them is that they say they want an honest good man, but they always go for guys who get all the girls (players). Then they come crying to me when they get hurt over, and over again.

that's it! I'm moving out!<hr></blockquote>

seen it a million times, they break up with their long term boyfriend, then they claim they arn't a ho and dont just want to get on guys, for the next month all they want to do is get hammered and pick guys up at the bar and bring them home/go home with them. This happens many times and they just get upset at why these guys move on a week after them and dont want anything serious. Then they do it all over again. Why cant women relize, the men they meet and bring home or go home with an hour after they meet them arn't ones for a relationship! And any guy that finds a girl that blaintenly wants to bring them home and have sex doesn't want a girl like that anyways, they just want a fun night. Man...

sorry, personal rant i dont even know if that paragraph makes since really. Simply put, why arn't there more *hot* good girls out there?
(the above line only pertains to other single men considering ive been taken for a year and a half and would never think that on my own). er for my self

wonderwoman007

03-20-2002, 10:27 PM

Couldn't resist...guys are so contradictory.
It cuts both ways though. Guys like you continually get crushed and walked on by girls who couldn't give two cents, but you come back for more. Why beat your head against a wall? It will always get cut and bloody. Man...if I was a guy..well, anyway. There are so many nice girls and women out there, but it takes time to get to know them. Yeah, maybe the cute girl in the corner noticed you too, but you were preoccupied with the chatterbox who will eat you for lunch.
Something to think about...

Large And In Charge

03-21-2002, 12:20 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by wonderwoman007:
Couldn't resist...guys are so contradictory.
It cuts both ways though. Guys like you continually get crushed and walked on by girls who couldn't give two cents, but you come back for more. Why beat your head against a wall? It will always get cut and bloody. Man...if I was a guy..well, anyway. There are so many nice girls and women out there, but it takes time to get to know them. Yeah, maybe the cute girl in the corner noticed you too, but you were preoccupied with the chatterbox who will eat you for lunch.
Something to think about...<hr></blockquote>
This journal isn't about me. I've learned my leasons and I'm done with the whole relationship thing. This journal is for other guys on the board to read and realize that it's not worth it!

wonderwoman007

03-21-2002, 12:46 AM

Large and In Charge - Never ever give up on love. It's what makes life worthwhile. I meant no offense, it's just that guys often complain about girls, but they play into the same superficial system that girls are up against. Just be yourself and some girl will like you for you. No jokes. Don't be a victim. *mwah*

wonderwoman007

03-21-2002, 12:48 AM

P.S. Where is everyone getting their cool smiley faces from?

ben_kiks

03-21-2002, 01:47 AM

well with my experience women and men are the same,

women go for good looking guys
men go for good looking girls

the thing is good looking people are the worse ones they are nasty.
i think you all know what i mean images/icons/laugh.gif

wonderwomen : smilies are above where you type the message there is a list you scroll down and type whats in the box

wonderwoman007

03-21-2002, 02:03 AM

Thank you

wonderwoman007

03-21-2002, 02:04 AM

LOL It didn't go...hold on a minute graemlins/jump.gif

wonderwoman007

03-21-2002, 02:05 AM

Ahh...frantic smileys..that's what I like. images/icons/smile.gif

ben_kiks

03-21-2002, 02:41 AM

No Problems

Large And In Charge

03-21-2002, 04:17 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by ChymChymX:
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I think you might have a good story to kick this journal off... you seem like you have some pent up rage.<hr></blockquote>
Man, we all have war stories but mine is just too evil and painful to share. I have more purple hearts than some of the members are old.

I am thinking about starting something called, "Ask Large" because I have dealt with the evilness, wounds and all. Some of these guys haven't.

Menace

03-21-2002, 05:11 AM

I think this journal is meant as a wake up call for Large and in charge. images/icons/laugh.gif

muscleb0y

03-21-2002, 05:27 AM

graemlins/love.gif graemlins/yllove.gif graemlins/roller.gif graemlins/remykiss.gif I LOVE WOMEN!!! graemlins/remykiss.gif graemlins/roller.gif graemlins/yllove.gif graemlins/love.gif

-=muscleb0y=-

Pauly

03-21-2002, 07:52 AM

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monkeyboy

03-21-2002, 09:18 AM

Whether they are evil or not, is not the point.
One thing is certain, though, they are a waste of time.

Do a simple return on investment study into your GF.

What time is worth to you? Put a $ value to an hour. Minimum wage will work just fine.

Now how much time do you spend on your GF?, calculate the dollar value for that.

Include such activities as taking the trash out everyday when once a week would be fine.
Include associated costs, such as taking her mother to the airport.
Include gifts, meals out, drinks out and cab fares etc…
Include time not spent in the gym.
You get the picture

You should now have a nice big figure….

Then calculate the value of what you get back.
Include negatives for the nagging, the *****ing and general complaining

Now do the math.

And we haven’t even looked at the resources spent of those that you didn’t get any return on at all.

Large And In Charge

03-21-2002, 09:34 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by wonderwoman007:
Large and In Charge - Never ever give up on love.<hr></blockquote>
You give me 1 good reason why not? And I know what you're going to say and that's not a good reason! Men and women in general are incompatable; we communicate differently, our ideas are different, in general we think about sex and love differently, our commitment levels are different usually. Relationships are a bad idea all the way around. God never intended on this but we have changed so much as a society that why are we trying to make each other miserable by being together in that sense?

leena

03-21-2002, 09:36 AM

woe guys, lots of interesting responses out there. cool water, i'd say stick with the hippy chick. they're a decent group and have the high percentage of non-evil ones among them, the only higher group of non-evil women would have to be the grandma group. so you've got two to choose from. i'm a member of the hippy chick group, but got married, quite happily. pick a hippy chick, i love them and have loved a few, but be selective. watch out for the smelly, ultra-hairy ones.

hey large and in charge: you're right, the percentage is prob. higher. It's just that I'm from Pennsylvania and like to sugar coat things, small town world. Now i live in NJ, and man, the women out here are about 99.99% evil. thank god i like to hang out with my husband and his friends, and they treat me like one of the guys. otherwise i think i'd go NUTS! anyway the average comes from the fact that i'm assuming that there are some non-evil women out there in states other than NJ, PA has some.

Elmo: if you consider the percentage of non-evil single women, you're looking at a number around 5% or less, less if you want a hot one. my suggestion for you, find a non hot one, love her, and make her hot. just drag her to the gym with you. or find a transitioner, someone transforming from not-hot but non-evil to hot and non-evil.

the whole dating thing is just a sorting process, evil vs non-evil. maybe everyone should just wear a sign when they go out. like, quiet grl in the corner "NON_EVIL", girl hanging out at the bar drinking free drinks from numerous guys "EVIL".

good luck!
images/icons/wink.gif leena

leena

03-21-2002, 09:43 AM

hey monkeyboy,
i agree with you on everything but the trash issue. at my house it gets taken out daily (even by me) because egg yolks and tuna cans STINK when they sit for a week. (well, in a week i'll be living in a building with a trash chute on my floor so it won't be a big deal at all.)
great calculations though images/icons/smile.gif

Large And In Charge

03-21-2002, 10:00 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by dennis the menace:
I think this journal is meant as a wake up call for Large and in charge. images/icons/laugh.gif <hr></blockquote>
No man, I've had my wake-up call. I'm trying to wake some of you guys up because many of you guys sound like you're in a lot of pain with relationships and you don't have to be! I mean, dennis man you sound like a very nice guy like myself but girls don't want nice, honest, sincere guys. Oh yeah they say they do but how many times have you, or anybody else for that matter, said to yourself, "Why is she with that jerk" or "He treats her like dirt?" Because girls in general want to be with that type of guy so the guys that won't treat them like dirt, that aren't controlling their every move, that treat them with respect and like a human bing, etc. we fall through the cracks just because we are in the minorety and won't be like this.

sta63bmx

03-21-2002, 10:23 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Large And In Charge:
I'm trying to wake some of you guys up because many of you guys sound like you're in a lot of pain with relationships and you don't have to be.<hr></blockquote>

It's sad, but a lot of relationships are that way. However, it seems like the only way for relationships to truly, totally work is for both partners to be completely committed to making the other one happy. It takes a lot of trust and a lot of work, but when it *does* work, the result is AWESOME. To make a choice to keep loving somebody and treating them right even in times when they can be mean is really difficult. But if they come around and you BOTH realize what it takes to make the relationship be a happy one, then it's kind of like the relationship will enjoy positive stability, and small disturbances will simply result in one person sucking it up and continuing to love the other one while they figure it out. My wife and I don't always do the greatest job at this, but the times when we try to concentrate on making each other happy and think about the other person, it's really, really great.

Unfortunately, pigheaded guys and stupid *****y girls don't typically get this. lol That's why so many people are trapped in relationships from hell, I think.

DON'T GIVE UP HOPE! If nothing else, you can at least shoot yourself and end the misery whenever you want! LMAO Sorry, that might have been uncalled for.

JP

Elmo9286

03-21-2002, 01:11 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by leena:
Elmo: if you consider the percentage of non-evil single women, you're looking at a number around 5% or less, less if you want a hot one. my suggestion for you, find a non hot one, love her, and make her hot. just drag her to the gym with you. or find a transitioner, someone transforming from not-hot but non-evil to hot and non-evil.

<hr></blockquote>

I think i got that one covered i already have my own hot girl images/icons/smile.gif . Now i just have to convince her not to be scared around all the guys in the weight room and to do less cardio and lift more with me!

The Internet Author

03-21-2002, 01:20 PM

zhey, I have read all the posts here and sat back and laughed, agreed with some and was disgusted with others. But aren't we all being a bit narrow minded here? Are we not forgetting the real deal here?
Why are women and men supposed to be together?????????????????
Can't get it? It is not for sex, it is not to win wars, it is not to find out which planets we belong to....
It is to .......reproduce.....you know have children......
Yes that is right? Sex is supposed to be to create children, the reason it is supposed to be between two people that love one another is so the child grows up in a godd atmosphere with parents that love each other.
LAIC you are right...we fight too much, we have many battles of the wits and but heads over life, sex and love but we are missing the point to "us".
We are as couple supposed to be mature enough to respect each other for our indivdualality and our own ways and thoughts and feelings. We are each supposed to compliment each others traits and differences by adding the two sides together for our children to have two sides. We are not supposed to ask for complete companionship if we do not have that with ourselves.
If a relationship has gone wrong it was not meant to be and somewhere along the line somone was not honest with themselves, someone was scared and someone was hiding......
The only way to have a good or great relationship is to build the indestructable bridge between two world (men and women) so each is allowed and free to be the world they are but forever being connected to each other to pass vital things back and forth like compliments, respect, love, understanding, communication, and uniquesness.....
Together it is the responsibility of the two worlds to create new worlds. The reason men and women can produce children even though the two sexes are so different is for the parents to give the child the best of both worlds and the knowledge to understand both. We loose that knowledge through fear and ignorance over the years but it is there.
LAIC your views are not logical they are based on a hatred stemming from a personal pain and forgetting what you know in your heart to be true. Your bubble was burst because you allowed yourself to see what wasn't there because you wanted to just as I have. We tend to hate or fear what we do not understand.
Sure there are many women out there that are mean and cruel. Something has happened to make them forget what life is really all about or they were never taught, and there are many men out there that are mean and cruel as well. Women use thier bodies to hurt and men use there physical strengh, both are equally wrong and tortured inside......
Each hurt is a tool, a stepping stone and a lesson for the future. Each time a child falls it corrects its balance.......

Now that I have done my philosophical babble for the day I will return to my usual sagittarian tactless self and tell you to grow up and stop trying to make people fear true love because it is there....whether you find it in a mate , yourself or a lifestyle your soul mate is there, if you choose to shut yourself down then let that be your misfortune not the misfortune of others to hear you do it.....
Open and let the world in. bar no doors forever but keep them protected my common sence and realism.........
Liz

Nony

03-21-2002, 01:26 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Large And In Charge:

You give me 1 good reason why not? <hr></blockquote>

Here's one: because even you know that there are exceptions. images/icons/smile.gif

klx21

03-21-2002, 02:00 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by monkeyboy:
Whether they are evil or not, is not the point.
One thing is certain, though, they are a waste of time.

Do a simple return on investment study into your GF.

What time is worth to you? Put a $ value to an hour. Minimum wage will work just fine.

Now how much time do you spend on your GF?, calculate the dollar value for that.

Include such activities as taking the trash out everyday when once a week would be fine.
Include associated costs, such as taking her mother to the airport.
Include gifts, meals out, drinks out and cab fares etc…
Include time not spent in the gym.
You get the picture

You should now have a nice big figure….

Then calculate the value of what you get back.
Include negatives for the nagging, the *****ing and general complaining

Now do the math.

And we haven’t even looked at the resources spent of those that you didn’t get any return on at all.<hr></blockquote>

klx21

03-21-2002, 02:04 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by klx21:
<hr></blockquote>

oops, forgot my input!! new to this!
from a GF who does her share of nagging and *****ing, I think this is HYSTERICAL!
my boyfriend does all those things, and the dollar value would be OUTRAGEOUS.......
BUT, I WILL SAY THIS:
those things should add up to the amount you get back, and if not, you're just not in the right relationship.........some GF's ARE worth it!

wonderwoman007

03-21-2002, 02:17 PM

I was getting ready to launch into an essay much like Liz's and Nony's, but I was saved the trouble because they took the words right out of my mouth.
I agree with Liz - it's hurt being caused by self-centered people that thwarts the ideal relationship between men and women. Yes, we think differently - that's the beauty of the way we can complement each other, but it takes time, effort, and a willingness to forget yourself and your own desires to understand the opposite sex. This is called love. Love is a verb, not an emotion. "For God so loved the world that he gave His son..." "And this is love that a [person] should give up [his/her] life for a friend." And if both individuals in a relationship aren't committed enough to this enterprise then it won't work - period, full stop. But you must know who you are and be secure in that well enough to join in this endeavor.
LAIC and all other guys (and even girls) out there who think that women are evil...it's just not true. I've had terrible experiences with guys and good ones as well, so I realize that not all of them are evil. I've also had bad experiences with women, mostly good ones though. A person's actions are their individual choice. So you've noticed a pattern among women? Well, it may be that, since many women are mentally structured similarly often similarly influenced by messages of pop culture, they are also subject to the same vices. But it's the same with men. Ultimately,respect, committment, and genuine friendship - including the willingness to FORGIVE are going to be the bottom line of any good relationship. If a person doesn't have these qualities, then they will miss out on this valuable opportunity - woman or man.
Yeah, so this is a mini-essay. But the INTERNET AUTHOR's is longer images/icons/smile.gif

"Whether women are better than men I cannot say - but I can say they are certainly no worse."
- Golda Meir

"To live is like to love - all reason is against it, and all healthy instinct for it."
- Samuel Butler
and my fave quote:
- "Perfect love casts out all fear."
1 John 4:18

The Internet Author

03-21-2002, 02:25 PM

Well put wonderwoman and thanks for the back up...
One thing is for sure we must be an intelligent bunch because we sure can write...
hahahahha
Liz

Large And In Charge

03-21-2002, 02:36 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by The Internet Author:
zhey, I have read all the posts here and sat back and laughed, agreed with some and was disgusted with others. But aren't we all being a bit narrow minded here? Are we not forgetting the real deal here?
Why are women and men supposed to be together?????????????????
Can't get it? It is not for sex, it is not to win wars, it is not to find out which planets we belong to....
It is to .......reproduce.....you know have children......
Yes that is right? Sex is supposed to be to create children, the reason it is supposed to be between two people that love one another is so the child grows up in a godd atmosphere with parents that love each other.
LAIC you are right...we fight too much, we have many battles of the wits and but heads over life, sex and love but we are missing the point to "us".
We are as couple supposed to be mature enough to respect each other for our indivdualality and our own ways and thoughts and feelings. We are each supposed to compliment each others traits and differences by adding the two sides together for our children to have two sides. We are not supposed to ask for complete companionship if we do not have that with ourselves.
If a relationship has gone wrong it was not meant to be and somewhere along the line somone was not honest with themselves, someone was scared and someone was hiding......
The only way to have a good or great relationship is to build the indestructable bridge between two world (men and women) so each is allowed and free to be the world they are but forever being connected to each other to pass vital things back and forth like compliments, respect, love, understanding, communication, and uniquesness.....
Together it is the responsibility of the two worlds to create new worlds. The reason men and women can produce children even though the two sexes are so different is for the parents to give the child the best of both worlds and the knowledge to understand both. We loose that knowledge through fear and ignorance over the years but it is there.
LAIC your views are not logical they are based on a hatred stemming from a personal pain and forgetting what you know in your heart to be true. Your bubble was burst because you allowed yourself to see what wasn't there because you wanted to just as I have. We tend to hate or fear what we do not understand.
Sure there are many women out there that are mean and cruel. Something has happened to make them forget what life is really all about or they were never taught, and there are many men out there that are mean and cruel as well. Women use thier bodies to hurt and men use there physical strengh, both are equally wrong and tortured inside......
Each hurt is a tool, a stepping stone and a lesson for the future. Each time a child falls it corrects its balance.......

Now that I have done my philosophical babble for the day I will return to my usual sagittarian tactless self and tell you to grow up and stop trying to make people fear true love because it is there....whether you find it in a mate , yourself or a lifestyle your soul mate is there, if you choose to shut yourself down then let that be your misfortune not the misfortune of others to hear you do it.....
Open and let the world in. bar no doors forever but keep them protected my common sence and realism.........
Liz<hr></blockquote>
I have only 3 words for you,

Take a breath? graemlins/bluelaugh.gif

The Internet Author

03-21-2002, 02:50 PM

wimp.......

Large And In Charge

03-21-2002, 03:06 PM

You women don't want none of this graemlins/bluelaugh.gif

nometry

03-21-2002, 03:25 PM

me, myself i got lucky i found a great gal she's considerate, loving, freindly, and fun. I couldnt ask for anythign better, she's cleans the house, cooks, washes my clothes and many other things, not because i wont do those things, but because she wants to make my life easier. She never nags or *****es about anything i do, not because im a saint but because i dont do anything that would shove her in that attack state of mind.

most guys and gals dont realize the type of damage they do to someone else until it has been done to them, that alone is the biggest divider i have run across in my short but odd little time frame.

the golden rule knows no sex (poor golden rule)

ok im done graemlins/wavey.gif

ChymChymX

03-21-2002, 03:41 PM

Wow, four pages.... this journal may turn into a novel!

The Internet Author

03-21-2002, 03:56 PM

be careful LAIC
you might fall into a coomon male malfunction....
Allowing your pride to override the IQ......
hahaha
I still say your a wimp...can't take a challenge???/
Liz

nometry

03-21-2002, 05:42 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Large And In Charge:

It's building man! It's just like a time-bomb, when you least expect itssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssBOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!<hr></blockquote>

well she better do it outside then, cause i aint gonna clean that **** up images/icons/laugh.gif

Large And In Charge

03-21-2002, 06:50 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by The Internet Author:
zhey, I have read all the posts here and sat back and laughed, agreed with some and was disgusted with others. But aren't we all being a bit narrow minded here? Are we not forgetting the real deal here?
Why are women and men supposed to be together?????????????????
Can't get it? It is not for sex, it is not to win wars, it is not to find out which planets we belong to....
It is to .......reproduce.....you know have children......
Yes that is right? Sex is supposed to be to create children, the reason it is supposed to be between two people that love one another is so the child grows up in a godd atmosphere with parents that love each other.
LAIC you are right...we fight too much, we have many battles of the wits and but heads over life, sex and love but we are missing the point to "us".
We are as couple supposed to be mature enough to respect each other for our indivdualality and our own ways and thoughts and feelings. We are each supposed to compliment each others traits and differences by adding the two sides together for our children to have two sides. We are not supposed to ask for complete companionship if we do not have that with ourselves.
If a relationship has gone wrong it was not meant to be and somewhere along the line somone was not honest with themselves, someone was scared and someone was hiding......
The only way to have a good or great relationship is to build the indestructable bridge between two world (men and women) so each is allowed and free to be the world they are but forever being connected to each other to pass vital things back and forth like compliments, respect, love, understanding, communication, and uniquesness.....
Together it is the responsibility of the two worlds to create new worlds. The reason men and women can produce children even though the two sexes are so different is for the parents to give the child the best of both worlds and the knowledge to understand both. We loose that knowledge through fear and ignorance over the years but it is there.
LAIC your views are not logical they are based on a hatred stemming from a personal pain and forgetting what you know in your heart to be true. Your bubble was burst because you allowed yourself to see what wasn't there because you wanted to just as I have. We tend to hate or fear what we do not understand.
Sure there are many women out there that are mean and cruel. Something has happened to make them forget what life is really all about or they were never taught, and there are many men out there that are mean and cruel as well. Women use thier bodies to hurt and men use there physical strengh, both are equally wrong and tortured inside......
Each hurt is a tool, a stepping stone and a lesson for the future. Each time a child falls it corrects its balance.......

Now that I have done my philosophical babble for the day I will return to my usual sagittarian tactless self and tell you to grow up and stop trying to make people fear true love because it is there....whether you find it in a mate , yourself or a lifestyle your soul mate is there, if you choose to shut yourself down then let that be your misfortune not the misfortune of others to hear you do it.....
Open and let the world in. bar no doors forever but keep them protected my common sence and realism.........
Liz<hr></blockquote>
What you are saying is nice but this is not a perfect world. Nobody's perfect and I understand that but as a society, we are very self centered. And this may or may not be the person's fault either, this way of life may go back generations and the attitudes may have been handed down through the years. God never intended this incompatibility to be so great but through the years people have made up their own rules. Sure there are exceptions out there on both sides but the majoriety can not co-exist together.

You say my views aren't logical? This is not a soap opera, this is the world we live in like it or not. I do wish life was like the Brady Bunch but it's just not going to happen. So may veiws are very logica!

Yes our job is to reproduce and most guys do that pretty good. But what's the good of having a child when he or she has a good chance of growing up without values and morals? And then it's just an endless cycle of abuse, lies, dececption, etc. because this is how they were taught from the beginning.

And if people are in relationships right now and are going great, that's wonderful! But the ones that keep having bad relationships that aren't their fault, someday they are going to be where I'm at right now but until then they keep getting their heart stompt on and I'm just saying that it's not worth the pain anymore. Am I so wrong to try and save them from this continuous pain? I don't think so.

The Internet Author

03-21-2002, 06:55 PM

I trust you have heard the saying to love and lost is better than not having loved at all (something like that)
Well I personally believe this to be true..
If you do not as mentioned before that is your misfortune....but many of us including me would rather take the chance of getting hurt even a million times in order to learn the lessons to be blissfully happy.......
If I do not find a mate then oh well at least I have found inner strength and peace...

leena

03-21-2002, 07:06 PM

ok LAIC,
it's considerate of you to look out for those who get their hearts crushed on a regular basis. i think what everyone's point is that we're all on our own journey. and some of don't mind getting their hearts torn constantly because one day it might not get torn. in the gym you don't mind the pain of the last rep because you know it's worth it. the optomist sees the donut, the pessimist the hole. in the gym everything is a simple no-brainer calculation (this dumbell is 30 pounds because it says so). in relationships and dating things aren't spelled out, people don't walk around with their hang-ups written on their sleaves. that's just the way it is. i still agree that there are A LOT of evil women out there: like two at the gym today who i just wanted to slap. they were cracking their gum while using the eliptical. i had to swtich to the treadmill, it got that bad. (i think they escaped from some valley girl world). if you want to give up on women, just do it. it's your journey man.
later,
leena

The Internet Author

03-21-2002, 07:08 PM

I also think that offering negative comments to somone who might have or does have a chance at true love is un called for and not necessary. Everyone has the right to believe that happiness with a mate is out there. It is not your place nor responsibility to tell them they are in for an infinite doom if they try to love a woman.
And I do not beleive it is right to have children if you can not raise them with morals and values and although it is ideal to have a two parent family in order to instill that it is not necessary......
No this world is not safe, nor ideal in any way but it is what we make it and we allow ourselves to narrow our perception to our own selfish woes...
If there was one thing that I learned through giving birth to babies that were only 1 lb and having more surgeries than most adults.....
There is power there in each one of us no matter who we are or how big we are. The world is as we percieve it to be and if I can have babies that start off small, cold, alone and who are subjected to pain of such awful degrees each day and they still grow up and learn to smile and learn to love and cherish life then we as adults should be able to take some misery and some pain as well.....
You are allowing yourself to be cold and inturn hurting yourself worse than those two women ever did......
So hows life bud?
Hope to chat soon....
Life should be seen through the eyes of a child.

leena

03-21-2002, 07:39 PM

three-somes...the only way to go graemlins/ladys-man.gif
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pss. it was a joke so don't go freaking out.

The Internet Author

03-21-2002, 07:52 PM

depends on what three.......

ChymChymX

03-21-2002, 09:46 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by The Internet Author:
depends on what three.......<hr></blockquote>

Certainly not the chicks in THIS ---> graemlins/ladys-man.gif

The Internet Author

03-21-2002, 10:30 PM

No LAIC It is my choice......
No pms please....

Large And In Charge

03-21-2002, 10:31 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by leena:
three-somes...the only way to go graemlins/ladys-man.gif
images/icons/wink.gif <hr></blockquote>
Why do I get the feeling that the evilness is trying to grab a hold of me?
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The Internet Author

03-21-2002, 10:33 PM

already got ya

ChymChymX

03-22-2002, 04:04 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by The Internet Author:
be careful LAIC
you might fall into a coomon male malfunction....
Allowing your pride to override the IQ......
hahaha
I still say your a wimp...can't take a challenge???/
Liz<hr></blockquote>

You never know, he may be constructing a carefully crafted essay right now...

Large And In Charge

03-22-2002, 04:17 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by nometry:
She never nags or *****es about anything i do<hr></blockquote>
It's building man! It's just like a time-bomb, when you least expect itsssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssBOOOOOOOOOMMM MMMM!!!!!

Large And In Charge

03-22-2002, 04:22 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by ChymChymX:
Wow, four pages.... this journal may turn into a novel!<hr></blockquote>
I do have a bunch of characters in this novel hahaha

The Internet Author

03-22-2002, 04:31 AM

Ahh yes the characters....
we are seeing them for who they are aren't we?
It seems this journal is a battle of the sexes but it also seems like the disturber is shrinking from the fight just as the guns are loaded and the word engage has been called........

Large And In Charge

03-22-2002, 09:51 AM

Women's Bumper Stickers

1. SO MANY MEN, SO FEW WHO CAN AFFORD ME.

2. GOD MADE US SISTERS; PROZAC MADE US FRIENDS.

3. IF THEY DON'T HAVE CHOCOLATE IN HEAVEN, I AIN'T GOING.

4. MY MOTHER IS A TRAVEL AGENT FOR GUILT TRIPS.

5. PRINCESS, HAVING HAD SUFFICIENT EXPERIENCE WITH PRINCES, SEEKS FROG.

6. COFFEE, CHOCOLATE, MEN. . . SOME THINGS ARE JUST BETTER RICH.

7. DON'T TREAT ME ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN YOU WOULD THE QUEEN.

8. IF YOU WANT BREAKFAST IN BED, SLEEP IN THE KITCHEN.

9. DINNER IS READY WHEN THE SMOKE ALARM GOES OFF.

10. I'M OUT OF ESTROGEN-AND I HAVE A GUN.

11. GUYS HAVE FEELINGS TOO. BUT LIKE...WHO CARES?

12. NEXT MOOD SWING: 6 MINUTES.

13. AND YOUR POINT IS...?

14. WARNING: I HAVE AN ATTITUDE AND I KNOW HOW TO USE IT.

15. OF COURSE I DON'T LOOK BUSY...I DID IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME.

16. DO NOT START WITH ME. YOU WILL NOT WIN.

17. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT, SO PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP.

18. ALL STRESSED OUT AND NO ONE TO CHOKE.

19. I'M ONE OF THOSE BAD THINGS THAT HAPPENS TO GOOD PEOPLE.

20. HOW CAN I MISS YOU IF YOU WON'T GO AWAY?

21. SORRY IF I LOOKED INTERESTED. I'M NOT.

23. IF WE ARE WHAT WE EAT, I'M FAST, CHEAP AND EASY.

24. DON'T UPSET ME! I'M RUNNING OUT OF PLACES TO HIDE THE BODIES.

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leena

03-22-2002, 12:34 PM

hey,
the three-some thing was just a joke:
<blockquote>quote:<hr> three-somes...the only way to go

pss. it was a joke so don't go freaking out. <hr></blockquote>
everyone was getting so stressed out, i thought it was funny. LAIC, the bumper stickers made me laugh, even if they weren't supposed to.

^^Yanick^^

03-22-2002, 05:35 PM

all i have to say is that women ARE evil...They ***k with your mind and heart. My compromise however isn't to swear off women(my right hand will get very tired), but its to have meaningless one night stands or hook up with girls who you will never talk to again or atleast girls who don't expect a relationship. Because personally i don't believe in love, and don't think that relationships are worth it. Assuming you get passed the asking out and everything you will need to spend money on her, buy her gifts etc etc. then you WILL break up and you will still be ***ked up.

Large And In Charge

03-22-2002, 06:59 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by ^^Yanick^^:
all i have to say is that women ARE evil...They ***k with your mind and heart. My compromise however isn't to swear off women(my right hand will get very tired), but its to have meaningless one night stands or hook up with girls who you will never talk to again or atleast girls who don't expect a relationship. Because personally i don't believe in love, and don't think that relationships are worth it. Assuming you get passed the asking out and everything you will need to spend money on her, buy her gifts etc etc. then you WILL break up and you will still be ***ked up.<hr></blockquote>

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Large And In Charge

03-24-2002, 02:36 PM

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The Internet Author

03-24-2002, 03:07 PM

you are still not able to swallow that pride and admit that you are being too harsh and pessimistic...
What would you do if somone who you loved folloewd your views.......??????

Didn't anyone ever tell you that if you stick out your toungue a fly will surly **** on it??????

Neeker

03-24-2002, 03:07 PM

LAIC, you've got some serious issues you need to work out! And by having that attitude you will never resolve the problem and only make it worse.

I also think that subjects like this are inappropriate to a public board like this. It discourages women joining and interacting in the forums.

Large And In Charge

03-24-2002, 03:43 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by The Internet Author:
What would you do if somone who you loved folloewd your views.......??????<hr></blockquote>
Well for one thing, this journal is basically for guys and if I loved a guy that much then there is something wrong. But also I'm not twisting anybody's arm here. I'm just pointing out and others are pointing out the way most women are. If they want to not follow my views, that's their right.

The Internet Author

03-24-2002, 06:10 PM

Zirtbow, how do you ever expect to have someone to love you for who you are really are if you are not who you are. You do not conform to what someone wants you to be or you will be miserable, instead wait for somone who truly loves you for YOU...she will come along....

LAIC, you have got to give this up. Your pride will be your only companion for the rest of your life. The journal is for men but every woman here has and will read it and they are hearing you dis them when they have the same goals as you. How do you expect any of them to come to you for help when they know you think that they are evil..
YEs so you say there are exceptions....how does she know if she is one and why would she take the chance......?
You are too harsh. Some women are not the way they should be as are some men...Who is in the news right now...A woman for cheating or lieing or hurting a man who loved them or a man for raping a girl or a woman or a man who has hit his wife...
Do not have a battle of wits with the other sex unless you are fully armed and ready to tango...
I think if you thought about it you would realize that you are mad at yourself for allowing yourself to fall in love with the wrong person and for wanting somone....

Mopete

03-24-2002, 06:40 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by cunning22:
I find this website to be interesting and insightful, but I've found so many anti-female messages in such a short amount of time that I don't believe I shall be returning.<hr></blockquote>

SHANANANA, SHANANANA, HEY HEY HEY! GOODBYE!

HChick

03-24-2002, 09:17 PM

Anti-female? Or just openly expressing their opinions on what's a mostly male forum.....just like women do when they're around mostly other women?

As for this current debate with LAIC, I don't know what's gone on in his life in the past, but I do think that only someone who has gone through perhaps a similar situation can truly relate. At some point before I had my heart trampled and ground into the dirt, I too would have said hey, what's with that attitude, open your heart to people, etc. etc.

But after going through the pain of a hellish relationship, of living with the feeling of god, put me out of my misery because i don't see how I can go on another day........you really don't want to be hurt like that again. And if I ever bother with another relationship, you can **** well bet that *I* won't be the one putting in all the effort. Do I think MEN are evil? Not really, but will I trust someone again? Why should I? Sometimes it just gets tiring of getting kicked in the teeth all the time. ***ked up people should really just go out with other ***ked up people, so they don't corrupt and destroy anyone else.

Anyway, just a different chick perspective. Ignore if you wish.

THE BEAST

03-24-2002, 11:59 PM

EVIL I TELL YOU ALL EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!(sometimes)

Mopete

03-25-2002, 01:12 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by THE BEAST:
EVIL I TELL YOU ALL EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!(sometimes)<hr></blockquote>

Dude, your 13 years old, what the hell do you know about girls? Go back to the school yard little boy.

Large And In Charge

03-25-2002, 01:15 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by The Internet Author:
LAIC, you have got to give this up. Your pride will be your only companion for the rest of your life. The journal is for men but every woman here has and will read it and they are hearing you dis them when they have the same goals as you. How do you expect any of them to come to you for help when they know you think that they are evil..
YEs so you say there are exceptions....how does she know if she is one and why would she take the chance......?
You are too harsh. Some women are not the way they should be as are some men...Who is in the news right now...A woman for cheating or lieing or hurting a man who loved them or a man for raping a girl or a woman or a man who has hit his wife...
Do not have a battle of wits with the other sex unless you are fully armed and ready to tango...
I think if you thought about it you would realize that you are mad at yourself for allowing yourself to fall in love with the wrong person and for wanting somone....<hr></blockquote>
OK you are taking this evil out of context.

I am talking about evil that shows up in a personl relationship, you are talking about evil in general and saying that I dis or even hate women. If I hated women then why are most of my clients women? If I hated women so bad then how come I get sucess stories like weight losses of 10, 30, 62lbs. and these are all women. Now if any women on here want to give me a chance to help them to get in shape and to allow me to make them feel better, I more than welcome them to get in touch with me. Women are great as friends but I'm keeping it at that because they turn into different people when they're in a relationship, I should know I grew up with 12 of them! Probably no other male on abc knows more about women than I do.

As far as exceptions go, how do you know that I haven't told her that she is an exception?

And as far as battle of wits goes, I haven't even warmed up yet! Hey my sister is a psycho so I've been to the extreme! Better question is, is there anybody that can tango with me!

Knowledge is power and being around a lot of women throughout my life, I have the knowledge that most guys don't And that scares you doesn't it?

Andrew G.

03-25-2002, 01:20 AM

LAIC, I know more than you do about women, because I watch Interior Decorating and the shopping channel... so ha!

Large And In Charge

03-25-2002, 01:30 AM

Large And In Charge

03-25-2002, 01:32 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Andrew G.:
LAIC, I know more than you do about women, because I watch Interior Decorating and the shopping channel... so ha!<hr></blockquote>
Sometimes I catch Martha Stewart lol

wonderwoman007

03-25-2002, 01:52 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Large And In Charge:

OK you are taking this evil out of context.

I am talking about evil that shows up in a personl relationship, you are talking about evil in general and saying that I dis or even hate women. If I hated women then why are most of my clients women? If I hated women so bad then how come I get sucess stories like weight losses of 10, 30, 62lbs. and these are all women. Now if any women on here want to give me a chance to help them to get in shape and to allow me to make them feel better, I more than welcome them to get in touch with me. Women are great as friends but I'm keeping it at that because they turn into different people when they're in a relationship, I should know I grew up with 12 of them! Probably no other male on abc knows more about women than I do.

As far as exceptions go, how do you know that I haven't told her that she is an exception?

And as far as battle of wits goes, I haven't even warmed up yet! Hey my sister is a psycho so I've been to the extreme! Better question is, is there anybody that can tango with me!

Knowledge is power and being around a lot of women throughout my life, I have the knowledge that most guys don't And that scares you doesn't it?<hr></blockquote>
I can't stand this blathering any longer.
So you grew up with a bunch of girls ...your sisters I'm guessing and they either walked all over you or showed you their ugly sides. So ... don't we all see the worst of the people we live with? A lot of people think that those closest to them will love them no matter what, so they treat them like crap. This happens a LOT in families. I had no sisters. My brothers treated me like crap and I saw some of their worst days. But we also had some good times. You can't make such wide generalizations from familial experiences. It may be because all those girls are in the same family that they act similarly - learning by example. Just realize that people are people. People in general need to grow up and learn how to really love somebody. And not just when they're looking their best, but at their low times as well. I'm guessing that you never had that from a woman and you're a sorry case... jaded as can be because you can't see past that. Well, open your eyes, bro. Take a look around. Realize that MOST people will be only thinking of themselves, but there are people - male and female who know how to really live. "All you need is love...All you need is love... All you need is loooooove...Love is all you need." Your argument keeps going in circles. You've been given a lot of bait to refute this argument, but you refuse to bite. Maybe some cheese to match that not-so-high-quality whine?

wonderwoman007

03-25-2002, 02:08 AM

images/icons/smile.gif Just wanted to say that I don't think any less of you as a person for having those feelings. I just want to get you to open your eyes and to see that what you're seeing is the creation of your own experience, not the true picture. Hope I wasn't too harsh.
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Nacho Ferreira

03-25-2002, 02:31 AM

Women are GOOD !!!!!
I love women, regardles evilness. It comes with the same package.

Zirtbow

03-25-2002, 04:04 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by CoolWater:
Where has the simple "be yourself" gone?<hr></blockquote>

Oh that never works.. thats probably something made up by some dating agency to make people feel better.. if I need a good night I have to dress and act differently... in other words.. I have to be ANYONE but MYSELF... kinda sucks

malloc

03-25-2002, 06:16 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Nacho Ferreira:
Women are GOOD !!!!!
I love women, regardles evilness. It comes with the same package.<hr></blockquote>

Well that's quotable!

HChick

03-25-2002, 06:18 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Large And In Charge:

HChick makes a lot of sense. Until you have walked in my shoes, you will NEVER fully understand and each hurt has it's own degree of intensity! When the trust has been broken, it's extremely hard to trust another from that gender and a lot of you know this. For some reason most women like to play match maker.

Just from that one post, I can tell that HChick has been badly hurt by men and I'm so sorry for that. But I'm not going to try and convence her that she just had a few bad experiences and that most guys are wonderful. That would be misleading her to say the least because I know how most guys are and the last thing I want to see is her hurt again! Most guys are insensitive, uncarring, unreliable, self-centered, and only think about one thing. Now some of you know me on more of a personal level so you know I do not fit this image. But like me not trying to convence HChick that most guys are wonderful and seeing her get hurt again, you girls are trying to convence me that most women are not evil<hr></blockquote>

Very well said. I know people are well-meaning when they say things like oh, things will work out, someday you'll look back at this and laugh, you'll meet that special person, there's someone out there for you, blah blah blah. Well........who says?? There are NO guarantees in life, and just because things have worked out beautifully for many of you, doesn't mean that they work out for everyone. Think about that before you start saying things that you don't KNOW to be true. LAIC may meet a great woman, but he may not - kind of a crapshoot, isn't it?

But why try to change his mind from what HE KNOWS to be true based on HIS experiences? And for some of us, we're not just talking a "bad experience" that you move beyond.......there are some things that are life-changing events that affect how you move in this world, how you view life. Affect the type of person you are. People need to do what they have to to protect themselves. Some of you may say that that's no way to live life, but until you've lived through my pain or LAIC's pain, for example, you can't tell him how he should be acting or reacting or feeling.

Large And In Charge

03-25-2002, 06:36 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by HChick:

Very well said. I know people are well-meaning when they say things like oh, things will work out, someday you'll look back at this and laugh, you'll meet that special person, there's someone out there for you, blah blah blah. Well........who says?? There are NO guarantees in life, and just because things have worked out beautifully for many of you, doesn't mean that they work out for everyone. Think about that before you start saying things that you don't KNOW to be true. LAIC may meet a great woman, but he may not - kind of a crapshoot, isn't it?

But why try to change his mind from what HE KNOWS to be true based on HIS experiences? And for some of us, we're not just talking a "bad experience" that you move beyond.......there are some things that are life-changing events that affect how you move in this world, how you view life. Affect the type of person you are. People need to do what they have to to protect themselves. Some of you may say that that's no way to live life, but until you've lived through my pain or LAIC's pain, for example, you can't tell him how he should be acting or reacting or feeling.<hr></blockquote>
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THE BEAST

03-25-2002, 10:01 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by Mopete:

Dude, your 13 years old, what the hell do you know about girls? Go back to the school yard little boy.<hr></blockquote>

hey man thats harsh it was a joke you know funny haha why you gotta go and call me little

The Internet Author

03-25-2002, 10:09 PM

I see your point Hchick, and LAIC can certainly feel the way he wants to feel but he does not need to be going around and telling everyone here how evil us women are....Everyone has bad experiences some worse than others but the level of pain and what it does to your life is up to the person...
This is coming from somone who has had some of the worst..Trust me...I have had many experiences with men who have not only hurt me but my children too. I know what pain and danger is but I am strong enough to know that I have gotten through it I am a better person for it and I move on for my good and for my kids...
Laic is hurt yes but he is doing nothing to help himself if anything he is hurting himself each day.....
His perception needs to change in order for him to be a happy individual because he is not happy now is he?
LAIC.....
You are the only one in control of your perception of what you have been through and only you can gather the right lessons from it....
If you are happy feeling pain then be my guest but others need to learn on there own.....
And you need to be careful that your message does not get accross how you intend it to for the ones who you love,,,,,,

red996

03-25-2002, 10:57 PM

Women are like vacuum cleaners in general. They will suck all of the money out of you wallet, suck the life right out of you, and then when they are done they suck every dream you ever had out of you.

Not that I would ever go gay but I do understand why people do it. Men can not find women who like to do guy things and women can't find guys who like to do women things. I speak from years of research.

Now I would not want to give up my wife or any of the relationships I have had in the past but figured this was a good post to vent.

Women: Men want you to be beautiful but not toooo beautiful. We lust after the model but don't want that for a long term relationship. (Me at least) If we are lusting that bad for you so are millions of other guys. I think most of us are afraid that you will tire of us and move on. (most wont admit that though to much ego)

This may have been too much rambling and I probably should not have posted but what the hell.

Large And In Charge

03-26-2002, 04:24 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by HChick:
Anti-female? Or just openly expressing their opinions on what's a mostly male forum.....just like women do when they're around mostly other women?

As for this current debate with LAIC, I don't know what's gone on in his life in the past, but I do think that only someone who has gone through perhaps a similar situation can truly relate. At some point before I had my heart trampled and ground into the dirt, I too would have said hey, what's with that attitude, open your heart to people, etc. etc.

But after going through the pain of a hellish relationship, of living with the feeling of god, put me out of my misery because i don't see how I can go on another day........you really don't want to be hurt like that again. And if I ever bother with another relationship, you can **** well bet that *I* won't be the one putting in all the effort. Do I think MEN are evil? Not really, but will I trust someone again? Why should I? Sometimes it just gets tiring of getting kicked in the teeth all the time. ***ked up people should really just go out with other ***ked up people, so they don't corrupt and destroy anyone else.

Anyway, just a different chick perspective. Ignore if you wish.<hr></blockquote>
HChick makes a lot of sense. Until you have walked in my shoes, you will NEVER fully understand and each hurt has it's own degree of intensity! When the trust has been broken, it's extremely hard to trust another from that gender and a lot of you know this. For some reason most women like to play match maker.

Just from that one post, I can tell that HChick has been badly hurt by men and I'm so sorry for that. But I'm not going to try and convince her that she just had a few bad experiences and that most guys are wonderful. That would be misleading her to say the least because I know how most guys are and the last thing I want to see is her hurt again! Most guys are insensitive, uncarring, unreliable, self-centered, and only think about one thing. Now some of you know me on more of a personal level so you know I do not fit this image. But like me not trying to convince HChick that most guys are wonderful and seeing her get hurt again, you girls are trying to convince me that most women are not evil and it just doesn't fly?

Large And In Charge

03-27-2002, 09:56 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by The Internet Author:
I see your point Hchick, and LAIC can certainly feel the way he wants to feel but he does not need to be going around and telling everyone here how evil us women are....Everyone has bad experiences some worse than others but the level of pain and what it does to your life is up to the person...
This is coming from somone who has had some of the worst..Trust me...I have had many experiences with men who have not only hurt me but my children too. I know what pain and danger is but I am strong enough to know that I have gotten through it I am a better person for it and I move on for my good and for my kids...
Laic is hurt yes but he is doing nothing to help himself if anything he is hurting himself each day.....
His perception needs to change in order for him to be a happy individual because he is not happy now is he?
LAIC.....
You are the only one in control of your perception of what you have been through and only you can gather the right lessons from it....
If you are happy feeling pain then be my guest but others need to learn on there own.....
And you need to be careful that your message does not get accross how you intend it to for the ones who you love,,,,,,<hr></blockquote>
You know you are grasping at straws.

"Everyone has bad experiences some worse than others but the level of pain and what it does to your life is up to the person..."

Not necessarily. When you go through a life-changing situation, it is truly life-changing! You are not usualy the same again. You can do your best but you are never the same.

"Laic is hurt yes but he is doing nothing to help himself"

OK and what do you purpose I do about this? Unlike a lot of guys, I do not use women so I'm not going to have a bunch of one-night stands to try and fill the pain somehow.

"His perception needs to change in order for him to be a happy individual"

Ohhhhhhh and you think a woman is going to make me happy?

"If you are happy feeling pain"

Who said I was happy? I do not think anybody enjoys feeling pain in this sense but sometimes we have no choice in the matter.

"but others need to learn on there own....."

OK this makes no sense at all. If you saw somebody walking out in the middle of a busy street and potenially getting hurt would you say, "He needs to learn on his own not to cross the street when it's busy" and do nothing to stop him? If a child was about to touch a hot stove would you say, "He needs to learn on his own not to touch the stove" and do nothing to prevent it? If you saw a woman getting beaten up by a man would you say, "She needs to learn on her own not to infuriate him" and do nothing? Well this is one guy who gets involved. You may say that these are totally different situations but they're not. If I see somebody making a potential mistake, I'm going to try and help no matter if it goes against the majority. For example,

A while back I was in my front yard cutting some branches off a tree. A few doors down from me, I heard an arguement between a man and a woman. (I don't know what their relationship was) This was taking place in their front yard. I listened a little but didn't really pay attention because I figured it was none of my business! The arguement started to get louder so a glanced over to see what was going on. The man was beating on the woman! So I immediately stopped what I was doing and kept starring at the guy, didn't say anything, didn't even move a muscle, I just stared at him. He noticed that I was watching and stopped temperarily. But soon continued because he thought that, even though this was taking place where people could see, no one would want to get involved. I threw down my cutters and I think he saw me out of the corner of his eye because he immediately stopped! The cops soon arived because another neighbor called them. But see he didn't think that I was going to do anything and I didn't even know the woman. And say you or another woman on abc was in the same situation. You think I'm going to stand by and watch this happen? No mam because they would have 5'10 205lbs. of me to deal with!

So it doesn't matter if it's one of the situations I meantioned, matters of the heart, whatever, I'm going to get involve and try and help. There's a story that describes a man questioning God why he allows people to suffer, why he allows all this pain and sarrow going on in the world, and what is he going to do about it. God responds, "I gave them you."

The Internet Author

03-27-2002, 10:22 PM

you are so sad my dear...
Yes I would stand back and allow something bad to happen if the person needed to learn the hard way in order to not make the mistake again...And most times the person needs the valuable lessons that are learned from a bad relationship in order to have a good one......
You are warning people about a potential happiness....It is better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all. Love and life the same are a gamble...
You can;t chance the winning without chancing the loosing....You are telling people not to try to fall in love and take a chance for happiness, it is not your place...If they come to you and ask you for your opinion and if you are so cruel as to burst there bubble and to take away all the chances for them to walk into bliss......
Would you tell your daughter and son to stay alone so they do not get hurt? You can not protect people from life....Pain cause you to be strong....we need to be hurt to survive and full fill our lives....
And as for your pain. You need to turn the pain into power and stop being sad over what isn't...Can a woman make you happy? I do not know. Are you happy by yourself? you should be...a mate is an addition to ones life not a necessity....
You can learn from your loss and be stronger for
it....And you are not as you truly think you are but you wish you were...

The Internet Author

03-27-2002, 11:18 PM

Would you like me to start a men are abusive controlling jerks journal so you can tell me I am wrong?
haha
It would only be fair wouldn't it? But I have a few more years of pain and experiences on you my dear so that battle might be scary......
haha
Liz

HChick

03-28-2002, 12:49 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by The Internet Author:
And most times the person needs the valuable lessons that are learned from a bad relationship in order to have a good one......
You are warning people about a potential happiness....It is better to have loved and lost than not to have loved at all....If they come to you and ask you for your opinion and if you are so cruel as to burst there bubble and to take away all the chances for them to walk into bliss......
Would you tell your daughter and son to stay alone so they do not get hurt? ..Pain cause you to be strong....we need to be hurt to survive and full fill our lives....
And as for your pain. You need to turn the pain into power and stop being sad over what isn't...<hr></blockquote>

Sorry I keep barging in here, but I can't help myself. You know, pain doesn't always carry with it a valuable lesson, or at least not one that makes you stronger. Wiser, perhaps. A child burns his hand on the stove, he learns to not touch the stove again. That experience didn't make him a better person. Pain is sometimes just pain. Sometimes it makes you cynical, and you've been so hurt that you can't just turn around and say hey, well, I guess I learned my lesson *there*, so my next relationship will be all the better. Nope. You think, well, I don't want to go through that particular hell again, even as you still struggle with getting through the last hell.

Is it cruel to "burst someone's bubble" or is it just realistic, to make people a little more careful, a little more aware that life doesn't always have a happy rosy ending? If I had kids, I wouldn't want them to be alone, but I wouldn't want them to go through this kind of experience, so I would tell them to protect their hearts and not give of it so freely. Yes, I'd tell them that.

One last thought - it's easy to say to someone that they need to turn their pain into something else, to move on, to stop being sad, stop thinking about him or her, do something about it, etc.........well, eventually you can try to do things differently and make some changes in your life, but you can't shut off the emotions and feelings. Those don't just go away because you want them to. I wish with all my might that my thoughts weren't invaded nightly/daily with memories and feelings and so on, but wishing doesn't make it so. I don't see how you can have control over that.

Again, my apologies for barging in. But I've heard a lot of these same things from my friends and I know they mean well, but they just don't understand. Just my thoughts here......