Mamas Boy's Online Journal

[Mama's Boy]

[MAMA'S BOY'S ONLINE JOURNAL]

INTRODUCTION
12/16/01

I've gotten a number of requests to post my routine (training, diet, stats) since some people on this site consider me an expert. For there benefit, as well as the fact that I think this new feature RULES, I have decided to go ahead and start a journal.

Keep in mind this is a work in progress, and that I hate RECORD KEEPING OF ANY KIND! So please bear with me on details, exactitudes, factisms, etc.

Feel free to post your comments! Any fact the feedback and interaction is encouraged, so flame away!

Last thing before we start is a disclaimer. There are a lot of young, impressionable beginners on the site, and this needs to be said. THIS JOURNAL IS NOT ADVICE OF ANY KIND. I AM NOT THE SMARTEST MAN ON THE PLANET (far from it), THEREFORE ANYTHING I DO OR RECORD DOING IS NOT TO BE NECCESSARILY CONSIDERED SAFE, ETHICAL (haha), PRACTICAL OR RECOMMENDED IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM... AND IN FACT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED INSANE UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE. In other words, do what I say, not as I do.

With that said, drumroll please. graemlins/drummer.gif

[Mama's Boy]

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WEEK ONE MEASUREMENTS
12/16/01

Because you've got to "start" somewhere! Here are my measurements from earlier today. These and all measurements are taken cold and flexed unless otherwise noted.

HEIGHT: 5'8"
WEIGHT: 197 lbs (egad don't ask)

CHEST: 44 3/8"
BICEP (LEFT): 16 3/8"
BICEP (RIGHT): 16 1/2"
FOREARM (L): 13 1/4"
FOREARM (R): 13"
WAIST: 31 3/4"
THIGH (L): 24 7/8"
THIGH (R): 24 3/4"
CALF (L): 16 1/2"
CALF (R): 16 1/2"

NOTES: Feeling very soft! Calves feel very full, moreso than usual as I worked them pretty hard this week. Plan to take it easy on the calf volume, as they are in danger of making my quads and biceps look small. Will have to hit the quads a little harder to bring out the outer and top portions. Either way I am a total leg junkie. I live for leg day!

[danceswithbarbell]

A great start, MB.

Looking forward to the training and nutritional side of things.

Pity you live in such a backward country, metric
measurements are so much simpler.

For instance your right bicep would be a eye pleasing 41cm's, now that sounds impressive, along with your right quad, which is bursting the tape at 62cm's

However, there is a down side, it blows your waist up to a hefty 80cm's.

BTW, are you left handed?

[Dr. Pain]

[Mama's Boy]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>BTW, are you left handed?<hr></blockquote>

DWB,

I'm right handed.

[ELITE]

MB....what's your bodyfat percentage?

[TheTom]

WAIST: 31 3/4" at 197 is awesome!

[EvoLuTioN]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by TheTom:
WAIST: 31 3/4" at 197 is awesome!<hr></blockquote>

no kidding man graemlins/thumb.gif

[Mama's Boy]

Guys,

197 was a totally bloated Mama's Boy! (I said don't ask) I weighed in at 194 this morning, for reference. Thanks anyhow for the compliments.

Elite, will get my BF checked and post results, site measurements, etc some time in the next week or two. My BF *should* be under 12% unless I've lost LBM (fingers crossed).

[Mama's Boy]

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WEEK ONE TRAINING SPLIT
12/17/01

I've just come off a weekend of two days rest, I'm totally full of carbs... and I'm ready to rock, **** it! Since I'm on winter break, things are likely to get interesting! Hope I don't overtrain. I will post my workouts as I do them in as much detail as I can remember.

MONDAY: Chest & Triceps
TUESDAY: Back & Shoulders
WEDNESDAY: Legs & Abs
THURSDAY: Off & Cardio (maybe)
FRIDAY: Biceps & Circuit (if needed)
SATURDAY: Off
SUNDAY: Chest, Shoulders, Triceps OR Legs

NOTES: Tuesday and Wednesday MAY be changed around, depending on how I feel. Probably better to do legs on Tuesday coming off Chest & Tris, but my logic is that I have Thursday off from work, therefore I can go balls out on legs Wednesday after work and not have to worry about walking for the next 48 hours!

[ELITE]

Impressive stats, man. Are you bulking or cutting? Just curious.

[Mama's Boy]

Elite,

Thanks for the compliments.

My current priority is to cut down to under 10% in about 6-8 weeks. However, my current diet program, which I will start posting in detail soon, should allow for some small LBM gains.

[Dr. Pain]

[Mama's Boy]

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WEEK ONE CHEST & TRICEP WORKOUT (MONDAY)
12/18/01

There is really no way to describe my training methods lately other than "retarded." The basic idea going in is that I know what muscle group or groups I am going to workout, I pick a handful of basic exercises per muscle group, and then I go high intensity until I feel done.

Because of this 'method,' record keeping is hard! I almost always remember what weight I repped, but for how many reps and how many total sets is almost impossible! From now on I am going to bring a pad with me and at least jot down my reps for my basic heavy sets. Supersets, drops, half reps, quarters.... that's another story. Maybe I should just videotape myself!

Anyhow, onto the workout... WARMUPS NOT INCLUDED!

Set breaks are usually pretty short... just enough to catch my breath, plus about 10-15 seconds. I take a 3-5 minute break between muscle groups to stretch and "check them out." I may do this twice or more if I don't feel totally done.

CHEST:

INC BENCH PRESS: 130 X Failure, 135 X F, 145 X F
INC FLIES: 35's X F ("1 & .5" reps)
FLAT BENCH FLIES (DROPSET): 50's X F, 35's X F, 20's X F @ about 35
INC DB PRESS: 70's X F, 80's X F, 85's X F
INC FLIES (DROP SET): 40's X F, 25's X F, 15's X F @ about 40 ("1 & .5" reps)
DEC BENCH PRESS: 200 X F (4-5 reps)
DEC BENCH PRESS (DROP SET): 165 X F, 145 X F, 135 X F
LOW CABLE FLIES (DP Style!): 25 X F, 30 X F

Superset:

DEC DB BENCH PRESS: 80's X F
LOW CABLE FLIES: 25 X F
CABLE CROSSOVERS 30 X F (Held for static contraction)

TRICEPS:

WEIGHTED DIPS: 45 X F, 55 X F, 65 X F (+negatives)
ROPE PULLDOWNS (DROP SET): 70 X F, 50 X F, 30 X F @ about 25
DEC BENCH LYING TRI EXT: 85 XF, 90 X F, 95 X F
(all superset w/ TRI PRESS @ the same weight to failure)
TRICEP KICKBACKS (DROPSET): 35's X F, 25's X F, 20's X F
HIGH CABLE CONCENTRATED TRI PULLDOWN: 25 X F, 30 X F, 20 (Held for static)

Notes: Incase you haven't figured it out, "F" means Failure! This felt pretty good! Chest pump was amazing! One of my best ever. Still working on bringing out some of those veins... they're not quite visible. Unfortunately I didn't have a spotter until about halfway through the chest workout. Nobody around I could trust, thus the lack of flat bench work! Triceps were totally ballooned after this... I think the concentrated press really helped w/ fullness. Went balls out on the weighted dips, and that's always good! I can't wait to do it again next week.

BACK AND SHOULDERS TOMORROW!!! DON'T F WITH ME!

[Mama's Boy]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>
p.s Stop weighing yourself all of the time, and tell me to stop!
<hr></blockquote>

DP,

You know I have to weigh myself post carbs! You can't be THAT bloated and not step on the scale just for laughs.

As for you, you are a lost cause, old man. Bulk one minute (P'Iron must've been an inspiration), cut the next. My head is spinning! graemlins/images/icons/laugh.gif

[Big Pappa B]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mama's Boy:
[MAMA'S BOY'S ONLINE JOURNAL]
Notes: Incase you haven't figured it out, "F" means Failure! DON'T F WITH ME!<hr></blockquote>


Don't failure with you
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[Dr. Pain]

[Mama's Boy]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>I like the W/O! Don't F with me, must mean don't Failure with me? As F = Failure!
Since your "young" and I'm "old" (sucks to be me), I have a few recommendations of your W/O (looking foward to the eating program) PROTECT YOUR ELBOWS! Consider a seperate arm day, always start with a pushdown (instead of a strecthing exercise), switch dips to weighted dips between benches (feet up), consider flat or incline extensions as opposed to decline. <hr></blockquote>

DP,

Thanks for the warnings. I have had elbow injuries in the past, a pinched nerve in my right! Sucks hard! Will try to incorporate more bench dips, but I really hate flat extensions! Incline is good, but flat is just plain wrong.

As for "a seperate arm day," you mean Biceps and Triceps or just Triceps alone?

PS- Embrace your oldness.

[Dr. Pain]

[^^Yanick^^]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Dr. Pain:
I gonna embrace something!

Arms= Bis and Tri, forearms too if so inclined!

DP<hr></blockquote>

Bi's Tri's Forearms kick ***. Giant sets are always fun and your arms are so F'in(not failin!) pumped.

[Mama's Boy]

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SHOULDERS AND TRICEP WORKOUT
12/30/01

Guys, got a little busy with the holidays and a few other projects... I apologize to the many of you who were looking forward to me posting another journal entry....

(*crickets*)

Anyways, blasted the shoulders and triceps today with pretty low volume. I'm planning on lowering the volume of my training program to one bodypart every 7 days instead of the 5 days I've been doing. Also less sets. The theory is that this will allow me to hammer out the end of this insane cut without overtraining and losing LBM.

Something like this for a split:

Monday: Chest & Shoulders
Tuesday: Legs
Wednesday: off
Thursday: Back
Friday: Arms
Saturday: Off
Sunday: Off

Of course, what "low volume" means for me is a complete mystery. Going in I'm trying to keep it under 10 sets a bodypart.

Yet to get a BF analysis done. Will get one soon. Ok, so here's what I did today. To all of you who don't know what F means, go to the gym... F yourself and find out! images/icons/smile.gif

SHOULDERS (or should I say boulders?)

OVERHEAD BARBELL PRESS: 135 x F, 145 x F, 125 x F
LATERAL RAISES: 30's x F, 35's x F, 25's x F
BENT SIDE LATERALS (35's) superset w/ UPRIGHT ROWS (110) failure on each, 3 supersets
DB OVERHEAD PRESS (Drop): 75's x F, 60's x F, 35's x F @ about 30 reps

TRICEPS (imagine two irons hanging from said boulders)

WEIGHTED DIPS: 45 x F, (dropset) 75 x F, 65 x F, 45 x F
INCLINE EZ EXTENSIONS (110 x F)
superset w/ INCLINE TRICEP PRESS (110 x F) [3 total supersets]
ROPE PULLDOWNS (drop set): 70 x F, 50 x F, 30 x F [I did this thrice]

NOTES: Felt full (but not done) after the shoulder workout, and pretty good about the triceps, but it just felt wrong leaving the gym and not wanting to die! Oh well, science is on my side, we shall see how things go. Legs should be fun with less.

[Dr. Pain]

[danceswithbarbell]

Good to see your back on board.

Another interesting page in the journal.

Okay, so you've made a conscious effort to lower the work load volume.

Now, this is a young man who is used to giving it all in the gym and not leaving until the muscles are fried. However, as you said science is on your side, less is better. (maybe)?.

Anyone want to guess how long it takes before a few more sets are thrown in just to finish off that muscle, that didn't quite feel done, with the lower volume.

My guess, towards the end of next week. you'll be bursting to do more.

Happy new Year.

[Dr. Pain]

[Mama's Boy]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Anyone want to guess how long it takes before a few more sets are thrown in just to finish off that muscle, that didn't quite feel done, with the lower volume. <hr></blockquote>

DWB,

I agree. Keeping myself low volume will be mentally tough. Ultimately it's going to come down to what works. If it doesn't work as well, I'm kicking things back up to a higher volume (which clearly works for me, it's just taken a lot of effort lately for each workout). Most important part is that I get my 6-7 days rest between each bodypart... oh great, now I'm already backtracking!

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Happy new Year.<hr></blockquote>

Thanks! (Between DWB and DP, which one is father time?)

[danceswithbarbell]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mama's Boy:


Thanks! (Between DWB and DP, which one is father time?)<hr></blockquote>

The other one.

[Dr. Pain]

[Mama's Boy]

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CHEST AND AB WORKOUT
12/31/01

Well, I said the split was "something like this." I did include chest, obviously shoulders are still fried and have 6 days of rest left in them. So, I hit the gym (which was crowded as F) early and pounded out my sets on chest.

Note the slightly-higher-than-10-set volume for chest, as it was worked completely alone, save for my few sets of abs.

Here it goes:

CHEST (large, veiny and striated, thank you)

DB INCLINE PRESS: 70's x F, 80's x F, 90's x F
FLAT BENCH FLIES (dropset): 50's, 35's, 25's x F @ 25 (1.5's)
DB DECLINE BENCH: 75's x F, 85 x F, 80 x F
INCLINE FLIES (dropset): 40's x F, 30's x F
DECLINE FLIES (pyramid set): 35's, 40's, 45's, 25's, 20's
CABLE FLIES: 25's x F, 30's x F
SMITH MACHINE INCLINE PRESS (dropset): 220 x F, 150 x F, 135 x F
CABLE FLIES (dropset): 25's x F, 20's x F, 10's x F (1.5's)

ABS (just partially abscured by my bellyfro)

WEIGHTED LYING LEG RAISES (2 sets to failure)
WEIGHTED JACKKNIFES (2 sets to failure)
WEIGHTED FIGURE 8's (2 sets to failure)
LYING LEG RAISES held for static contraction (45 sec) superset w/ JACKKNIVES held for static contraction (30 seconds)

NOTES: Hooray for pretend low volume! (I picture Obadiah doing an Ultimate Orange spittake all over his CPU when he reads my this! graemlins/bluelaugh.gif ) Seriously, chest was about right... but DWB was right! I don't really know how to train low volume. I did a decent job on my abs, really killed myself in only about 7 sets, almost threw up... but I probably could've done more had I taken another minute or two's rest. Anyways, the key is the rest!

[Mama's Boy]

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LEG WORKOUT
1/1/02

Yesterday left me a difficult task. Working out legs without a partner, at a club I've never been to, in a limited amount of time. It was time to truly put my "low volume" theory to the test.

Here's what I did (keep in mind, no partner and no spotters I could trust, therefore squats were not quite taken to their usual level of insanity).

LEGS (in the right light, from the right angle, at the right time of day.... I have a few leg veins. hahaha)

LEG EXTENSION: 150 x F, 200 x F, 230 x F
SQUATS: 220 x 12, 260 x F, 310 x F, 400 x F (+ half reps)
FRONT SQUATS (220) superset w/ CRAB SQUATS (220)(3 total supersets)
LEG EXTENSION (dropset): 230 x F, 175 x F, 90 x F @ about 30 reps

CALVES (starting to make the rest of me look small)

HACK MACHINE RAISES: 180 x F, 270 x F, 180 x F
SEATED CALF RAISES: 90 x F, 110 x F, 65 x F

NOTES: That's it! Drove home, threw a steak on the grill and watched the Ducks beat the snot out of Colorado! Calves are sore as crud today, but quads feel like I could've done more! Oh well.

[Mama's Boy]

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BODY FAT PERCENTAGE
1/6/02

Well, it was promised a few weeks ago when I started this journal, here it is. I got my bodyfat percentage taken today (7 site, calipers). Decided to have it taken BEFORE my birthday (Tues), on which I will be taking in a steady diet of ****s and alcohol, per Warlord (haha).
And the results are................ graemlins/drummer.gif

Age: 19 years
Pec: 10.5 mm
Abdomen: 17.5 mm
Thigh: 11.5 mm
Triceps: 5 mm
Subscapular: 10 mm
Suprailiac: 10.5 mm
Axilla: 11.5 mm

Your estimated body fat percentage is: 9.8 %
Your estimated lean body mass is: 174.8 lbs

NOTES: All I have to say is "SUCK ON THAT, ADIPOSE TISSUE!!!" graemlins/bluelaugh.gif In case you haven't caught on, this is a personal best for me! Now if you'll all excuse me, I am going to jump up and down for a while. Comments?? Misc. applause? Hooting? Hollering? Gentle sobbing?

COMING SOON: The diet!

[Dr. Pain]

[EvoLuTioN]

Anything below 10% is kicking some major *** in my book WTG! graemlins/thumb.gif

[danceswithbarbell]

Hey, MB, you are the man.

Your stat's, your training, the whole 'freakin' lot is pretty ****ed inspiring, I don't mind telling you.

Look forward to the diet posts, this may help many strugglers out, I'm sure.

WTG!

[Mama's Boy]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Your stat's, your training, the whole 'freakin' lot is pretty ****ed inspiring, I don't mind telling you. Look forward to the diet posts, this may help many strugglers out, I'm sure.<hr></blockquote>

DWB,

Thanks! Feels really good to be under 10% even if I'm not done yet. (8% is a nice, round, even number!) Even more impressive if you'd have known me (and there was a lot of me) just three years ago!

The diet posts will be good for strugglers, especially those who have hit HONEST plateaus! (unfortunately this site is filled with mostly cheaters and whiners... no offense but it's true, much love to all)

[danceswithbarbell]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mama's Boy:


DWB,



The diet posts will be good for strugglers, especially those who have hit HONEST plateaus! (unfortunately this site is filled with mostly cheaters and whiners... no offense but it's true, much love to all)<hr></blockquote>

Actually, MB, this brings us up to, what I feel, is the most interesting part of this remarkable lifestyle DISCIPLINE.

There are different diets and different training protocols and quite possibly all of them will work to some degree more or less, given the right amount of discipline and consistency.

I, myself, use various methods to keep me on the straight and narrow path, not only with weight training but with business as well. From using charts, photos, dairies, reward systems I manage to stay on track far more often than I stray off.

Also, I read from, talk to and learn from many other focused, disciplined folk. This is where I get my inspiration.

Now, your story seems to be one of great success, from three years ago you were obviously far bigger than what was healthy, to your current personal best of under 10%. And well on your way to your current goal of 8%.

What I'm asking is it possible for you to articulate how you found the discipline to set your target and eventualy reach it?
I feel this would be of as much help to some of the ABCer's as your excellent nutrition, supp and training postings.

Some of these things are. How do you resist temptation when cutting?
What goes through your mind when your tired, your on a low-carb diet and your schedueled to do a less than favorite body part, yet you still do it?
Where do you draw your strength and motivation from?

Okay! Sorry! I'm asking a bit here. But, anyway, "WHACK" the balls now in your court.


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[Mama's Boy]

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ANTI-CHEATING RANT
1/8/02

Let me first start by saying that I am not one of those ectomorphs who goes around telling people that cutting is no biggie. I am about as naturally endomorphic as you can get. I have lost a LOT of fat. I would be willing to bet that it's the most on this board. I have had a hard time cutting in the past, I've made mistakes in the past, I've cheated more times than I wish to admit IN THE PAST. That being said, onto my rant about cheating and discipline.....

Ultimately, not cheating comes down to what mindset you're in. You can use references, and different techniques, and tips (and many are valuable) but if you're not willing to block out and avoid temptation you're not going survive a real cut without at least a few set backs.

As for that mindset, I try to convince myself that a cut is only a cut as long as I'm eating like it's a cut. It's not a game based on how much record keeping I can do, or what I weigh or or much fat I've lost so far, or how many days out of a week I've eaten healthy... a cut is the process of eating and exercising to fuel fat burning. As long as I'm NOT doing that, I'm NOT on a cut. I'm just fooling myself.

As for what to eat, it helps to have an option of what to eat. This is why I avoid nutritional record keeping whenever possible (excluding carb loading, I keep track of this). I simply know what I can and cannot eat for whatever program I have made, know roughly how many calories I get and then I go from there. Whether I had a chicken salad with dressing at 7 pm or a tuna salad with flax seed oil and nuts at 6:30 is completely irrelevant and only leads to stress. Have plenty of acceptable foods in the house and.... well.... accept them as your food!

A lot of times stress or panic can lead to cheating. Some people make it sound like someone is holding a gun to their head and making them cut. Let me assure you that nobody is doing that! Others break out the "whoa is me, to cut or not to cut?" crap and pretend like the whole thing is a constant chessgame going on in their head. It's not, and even if it were, you should at least have the tools to beat yourself at mental chess! images/icons/smile.gif

Decide for yourself how you want to look, know what you have to do to look that way, and then get over it. You simply have to sit down and look at what a cut is and get over all of the drama. If you do this, you'll see that all you're really doing is trying to burn some or most of your body's stored energy. THIS IS WHAT IT'S THERE FOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What's all the fuss about? Not going to eat carbs today? SO WHAT???? Only going to eat 90% of maintenance? Why is this such a big deal? What am I afraid of here? Am I afraid to lose fat? Am I in love with my energy reserve?

That basically sums it up. Give yourself some rules to stick to. Give the brain and palate choice. Get over all the drama and cut if you want to cut. It's not that hard.

[Mama's Boy]

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TRAINING SPLIT AND SOME DIET TALK
1/21/02

Okay, I have decided to stop posting my specific workouts in this journal. Mainly because I'm not a big fan of new excercises, so I would just be repeating myself over and over. But, also because I don't think anyone cares! I generally skim journals for new info and advice.... and I have a feeling you're all in the same ADHD boat as I!!! images/icons/smile.gif

New measurements (including BF%) will be taken sometime at the end of this month and will of course be posted. Fingers crossed for some improvement.

Still working on the PERFECT weekly carb up. This is freakin' hard as I have serious insulin issues!

Tried low-medium glycemic for one large meal (Beverly). This works, but I don't think it's enough carbs. I've tried eating everything in site. Big mistake. I've tried straight glucose polymers, tapering off into higher glycemic whole foods (potatoes, rice, bananas) and this seems to be the winner. However, I still feel pretty crappy after a few hours, and I still have a hard time getting the ratios (P/C/F) and calories down to a science. Perhaps I should try ditching the GP's.

Frequency is also becoming a question. Which works better for me.... once a week for two days, once a week for a day, once every ten days for a day, etc??

It's your classic to "carb or not to carb?" dillema. graemlins/bluelaugh.gif

Anyways, onto the training split. After a little upperbody/lower body split experiment that I didn't post about... I have decided to stay in the same ballpark and try something like this for the next few weeks:

MONDAY: Legs
TUESDAY: Off
WEDNESDAY: Chest/Triceps/Biceps
THURSDAY: Off/Abs
FRIDAY: Back/Shoulders/Forearms
SATURDAY: Off
SUNDAY: Circuit

Again, we are staying with my pretend low volume here! Basically this means I leave the gym when I'm fried (keeping it reasonable), and not returning to work the same bodyparts until the next week (or 6-8 days, depending on how long my carb up lasts). One or two days a week will also contain some HIIT cardio. I feel my body responds to this in a flavorable manner.

I'm also considering working legs twice in a week so Taleb can get a vicarious pump in his gams! We should all do a few extra sets for poor, misguided Oak. BWHAHAHA!

Comments???

[The Azn Oak]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Mama's Boy:

I'm also considering working legs twice in a week so Taleb can get a vicarious pump in his gams! We should all do a few extra sets for poor, misguided Oak. BWHAHAHA!

Comments???<hr></blockquote>

You know, i thought i had found a cure for insomnia reading this post ....... graemlins/bluelaugh.gif

seriously though, its made me tired, i'm gonna respond to this comment in the morning

[Dr. Pain]

[Dr. Pain]

[Dr. Pain]

[Mama's Boy]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>The perfect carb-up doesn't exist, and when it is close, it only works infrequently! We are in the same boat here!<hr></blockquote>

DP,

Perfect in this sense really means no spillover, and something closely resembling an anabolic response (and avoiding hypoglycemia-like swings). I would honestly settle for no spillover, creatine/nutrient uptake and minimal bloat. Hardly perfect. Perhaps I should've said "ideal" carb up instead.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>I'm impressed!<hr></blockquote>

Well, I'm impressive.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Next life, be a politician!<hr></blockquote>

Yeah! You like how I tells it like it is? I'm picturing "MB's Straight Talk BB-Express" (which would just be me riding around in my pickup with a bullhorn yelling at people).

I can see it now........

MB: "If elected I promiss to protect free will and the persuit of hairlessness!"

(crowd cheers)

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[Leanne]

Following your journal, MB...I like your philosophies. Drawing from them in my own pursuit of ideal body fat %. YOU are almost at your goal of 10%. Must feel GREAT! You go boy!

Also enjoying your training posts...I've upped the intensity of my workouts and increased the variety and you've got both right here online for me.

Do you have pics anywhere?

[Mama's Boy]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Following your journal, MB...I like your philosophies. Drawing from them in my own pursuit of ideal body fat %. YOU are almost at your goal of 10%.<hr></blockquote>

Leanne,

Ehhem. It's 9.8..... 9.8...... 9.8, woman! graemlins/bluelaugh.gif AND DROPPING! New goal is 8%, and I'm pretty optimistic after a week of active maintenance and not having to pull out any real vicious tricks just yet (CKD not considered "vicious" in my book). Never been this low, so hard to say what I can maintain, but 8% sounds good.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Do you have pics anywhere?<hr></blockquote>

Yes. Go to www.studswholikeheavycream.com (http://www.studswholikeheavycream.com).

[Leanne]

Can't get the link to work...any ideas?

9.8% WOOHOO!!! I know you'll posting when you hit 8%!!! Congrats...

[Mama's Boy]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr>Can't get the link to work...any ideas?
9.8% WOOHOO!!! I know you'll posting when you hit 8%!!! Congrats...<hr></blockquote>

Leanne,

Will post pics eventually. Sorry no nudes. images/icons/smile.gif

PS- The link is a joke!

[Mama's Boy]

Just bumping myself. Good news to report on the fat loss frontier! Got pinched last week, will post the results tomorrow. Also, new split and routines!